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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 26 November 20 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, was typing when you posted, but I'll add the other info...

Agreed, admission record notes Nellie as RC. There's a Catholic baptism 9 Oct 1910 at St Mildred, Ramsgate for Cecilia Nellie daughter of Nellie Doughty, godmother Maria Knight.

Date of birth from her Nellie's death registration is 22 May 1878.

Baptism 16 June 1878 at St Anne, Limehouse for Nellie Doughty daughter of Thomas George, shipwright, & Jane, date of birth noted as 22 May 1878. But this is a C of E baptism, not a Roman Catholic one.

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 26 November 20 17:48 GMT (UK) »
1) Your Nellie Hicks died in 1972; is that correct?

2) Is that her death in the FreeBMD index, listed by Josie in Reply #3, which says she was born on 22 May 1878?

3) Does that date (22 May 1878) match the birth record that your great-aunt gave you?

4) Have you searched for an obit for Nellie, in case it named her parents?

5) Have you searched for a burial or cemetery record for Nellie, which might have named her parents?

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 26 November 20 20:33 GMT (UK) »
There's a Catholic baptism 9 Oct 1910 at St Mildred, Ramsgate for Cecilia Nellie daughter of Nellie Doughty, godmother Maria Knight.
Maria Knight might be a name to follow up to help determine Nellie 1883's family.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 26 November 20 20:45 GMT (UK) »
As this is a Catholic record 'Maria' may actually be a 'Mary' Knight.
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 26 November 20 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, was typing when you posted, but I'll add the other info...

Agreed, admission record notes Nellie as RC. There's a Catholic baptism 9 Oct 1910 at St Mildred, Ramsgate for Cecilia Nellie daughter of Nellie Doughty, godmother Maria Knight.
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 26 November 20 23:03 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 26 November 20 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Extra Islington workhouse records for Nellie Doughty
St. John's Road Workhouse weekly admissions and orders of the board, December 1909-December 1910
Two images
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1R-Q31W-7

Religious creed register (last entry, two images)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1T-29QX-2

On ancestry (uk link)
Islington Orders of Removal, Outwards, 1910
Nellie Doughty to Isle of Thanet
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_a109559-00532?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Or if the link doesn't work, in London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1738-1926
Islington / Islington / Settlement Papers / Orders of Removal, Outwards, 1910 / Image 533

Poorly filmed. And a bit disappointing, content wise. Ends image 536. There may be an exam somewhere of course.

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 26 November 20 23:43 GMT (UK) »
There may be an exam somewhere of course.

In luck! Pat on the back for myself here (sorry!), first time I've managed to find one in those 19,945 images!
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a014964-00579?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1738-1926
Islington / Islington / Settlement Papers / Settlement Examinations, 1892-1917 / Image 580

Ends with cover on image 583

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 26 November 20 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Names father of her child.