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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #72 on: Friday 27 November 20 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Just to add a bit about Charles.
He was the first into the workhouse in Chelsea, on 21 Aug 1882
It says Mother Mrs Doherty, 3 Wickham Place. Which is their address in the 1881 census.
And that Charles was to go to "North Hyde Schools" (so there may be more records for him)
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #73 on: Friday 27 November 20 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Another triumph of persistence, jon  ;).
North Hyde Schools from wikipaedia
"Before the 18th century, North Hyde formed part of the infamous Hounslow Heath. In 1842, the former barracks were taken over by the Belgian Catholic order of the Brothers of Our Lady of Mercy and turned into an orphanage for Roman Catholic boys (St Mary's Orphanage). In 1914 it was reconstituted as an Industrial School; it closed in 1934 and the buildings were later demolished."

So near Brentford then....and probably in that reg district.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #74 on: Friday 27 November 20 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Margaret states b 1854 Marylebone in 1881.

1871 86/24/39

Margaret Healy 17 yrs b Marylebone with parents Michael and Margaret and siblings

Birth
1854 Marylebone
Margaret Healey mmn Connor

I was wondering if there was a Cecilia around but can’t see one.
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #75 on: Friday 27 November 20 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Wow I’m not being rude not replying I’m just trying to take all this in.

Can I just go back to the 1911 census. I did think it was odd Catherine said birthplace unknown but also her birth year would be 1880. The Catherine and Ellen on the school records etc is a different birth year?

I can't speak for everyone else but it looks like they're following leads and sharing information as they find it so others can search, too. When they've found all they can, I expect someone will put it all together and examine the discrepancies, give you some advice on where to look for more info, etc.

It's not unusual for ages to vary in different records over time. I've got an ancestor who got younger with each census. I've seen cases of women making themselves younger when they married a younger man. And some people didn't know exactly when they were born.

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #76 on: Friday 27 November 20 16:37 GMT (UK) »
It's William Clauss commercial clerk however if he is actually German it may be Willem Klaus

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #77 on: Friday 27 November 20 16:39 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if there are any archives of the Convent of the Daughters of the Cross? Maybe the Kent FHS may know. Might shed light on why she was there, parents etc.

I was wondering the same thing. That would be so awesome.
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #78 on: Friday 27 November 20 16:46 GMT (UK) »
This William looks a good candidate - in 1911 he was a Commercial Traveller - and also married!!

1901 Tooting Graveney

Marie Klaus    60 b Germany
William Klaus    23 son Lambeth
Caroline Klaus    21
William Goebel    43 Boarder

Added - I think he was born     Clemens Wilhelm Klaus  1877 June Qtr Lambeth Vol 1d Page 414 mothers maiden name VON LEHENNER 
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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #79 on: Friday 27 November 20 16:49 GMT (UK) »
 :o :o hadn't even thought of looking for him!!

ADDED: If he is Clemens Wilhelm Klaus - he may have died in Florida
Clemens Wilhelm Klause
Death 1952
Orange, Florida, United States
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #80 on: Friday 27 November 20 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Wow I’m still trying to take all this info in, I did find this immigration record.

Name:   W Clauss
Port of Departure:   Baltimore, Maryland, United States
Arrival Date:   18 Oct 1908
Port of Arrival:   London, England
Ports of Voyage:   New York
Ship Name:   Mobile
Shipping Line:   Atlantic Transport Co Ltd
Official Number:   97855