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Kathrine Kinnament
« on: Tuesday 24 November 20 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Kathrine Kinnament daughter of John Kinnament in "BROADFORD"?? was baptized on 30 Nov. 1732 according to OPR Births 295/10 20 Kingoldrum.
She had four siblings:   Jannet 1720, Alexander 1726, Margaret 1727 and David 1730.
Can anyone tell me their mothers name please?
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Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Kathrine Kinnament
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 November 20 17:30 GMT (UK) »
I can find a Broadmuir but not so far a Broadford in Kingoldrum, though there is a Broadford Bridge.

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Re: Kathrine Kinnament
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 November 20 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Forfarian,
Under a magnifying glass it could read BROADFOORD /BROADSOORD/BROAD?OORD
Geoff
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Kathrine Kinnament
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 November 20 18:10 GMT (UK) »
What was the name of Kathrine' 1st daughter, usually a clue at least to mother' forename?

Did any of the g/children have middle names which can often be a pointer to maiden names?

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Re: Kathrine Kinnament 4 Aug 1766 and Alexander 17
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie,
Good question about Kathrine's first daughter!
Kathrine was apparently married to Thomas Stormont (b 1713)in 1759 according to that ever reliable source Ancestry. Their family is listed as Isobel 14 Jan 1760, James 5 Oct 1761, David 23 May 1764,  John 4 Aug 1766 and Alexander 17 March 1769. Isobel therefore appears as the only daughter.
They all come up on the OPR as children of Stormont/Kinnament/Stormonth/Kinninmonth  apart from Isobel viz
14 Jan 1760 Isobel Stormonth OPR 295/10 33 Kingoldrum - Thomas Stormonth in Kinclune had a natural daughter baptized Isobel
No mention of a mother.
Geoff
Mann, Forfar
Dalrymple, Closeburn
McPake, Carluke
Stormont, Forfar
Waterston, Forfar

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Re: Kathrine Kinnament
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 June 24 02:14 BST (UK) »
Hello, I see this thread is a few years old, but I can add some info to help out those researching this family.

On the 1760 baptism for Isobel as a natural daughter to Thomas Stormonth in Kinclune, the mother can be found within the parish minutes on the website Scotlands People where Katharine Kinnimonth was made to give up the father's name as Thomas Stormonth in Kinclune who also confessed. I have not yet found any formal marriage, but the parish register may have been enough to imply a marriage to legitimise Thomas as Isobel's father evident by further legitimate children baptised.

Katharine is noted in the parish minutes as "in Broadfoord", matching first post of a Katharine born to  John Kinniment "in Broadford".

I suspect Thomas Stormonth belonged to the 1713 baptism, son of Thomas Stormonth of Kinclune and Isobel, daughter of Alexander Hood in Reedie. I descend from David Stormonth and Jean Glenday and suspect David belonged to the 1764 baptism, son of Thomas and Katharine with a couple of DNA connections supporting a connection in the mid 1700s to other descendants of Thomas and Katharine. David was a Farm Servant in Kingoldrum notably on the farms of Landhead of Ascreavie and Newbegging, both were lands formerly tenanted by the elder Thomas Stormonth before he acquired Kinclune farm in 1727.

To answer the question of Broadford and any other question people have about place names, try using the maps service on the National Library of Scotland. They have maps from the 1800s which retained many old names from the 1700s and before. The 1862 map looks to correspond with the other posts mentioning a bridge. This is located on the road from Kingoldrum to Broadmuir and named "Broadford Br."

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Re: Kathrine Kinnament
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 June 24 17:35 BST (UK) »
To answer the question of Broadford and any other question people have about place names, try using the maps service on the National Library of Scotland.
That is precisely where the link in Reply#1 above goes to.
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