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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 06 December 20 11:55 GMT (UK) »
I am attaching, an attachment in RTF format  of Alexander Innes ( Soldier ) son of William ( Senior ) Innes. Please read carefully as it confirms who Alexander was.

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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 06 December 20 13:03 GMT (UK) »
I am attaching, an attachment in RTF format  of Alexander Innes ( Soldier ) son of William ( Senior ) Innes. Please read carefully as it confirms who Alexander was.
There was never any doubt who he was: from his death certificate and the 1851 census he was born about 1773/1774, son of William Innes and Elizabeth McDonald, who were married in 1770.

However this document does not provide any EVIDENCE or PROOF that Alexander was the brother of William Innes younger.
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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 06 December 20 16:51 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at the censuses for William and for Alexander, and there are no clues there (e.g. a cousin, niece or other person who could link the families. Alexander's "nephew" in 1851 is a grandson (nephew in it's old sense, and confirmed by the 1861 census, where the "nephew" is designated a grandson).

It might be useful if you could look at your transcriptions of the baptisms of all the children of both William and Alexander and list them with the designation of the father and the names and designations of the witnesses. That way we could see if anything stands out.


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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #75 on: Sunday 06 December 20 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Also, re the Alexander Innes in the 1794 muster roll of the Gordon Highlanders, the list can be seen on line, as it was published in "Territorial Soldiering in the North-East of Scotland during 1759 - 1814", by John Malcolm Bulloch, published in 1914.

The roll contains two Innesses from Inveravon:

Alexander, 18, 5' 3 1/2", Inveravon, labourer, enlisted 10-6-1794

John, 20, 5' 7 1/2", Inveravon, labourer, enlisted 11-3-1794

There is also an Innes from Glenlivet in the Northern Fencibles, which lasted from 1793 - 1799:

Alexander Innes, 25, 5' 10", Glenlivet, enlisted at Gordon Castle 20-3-1793


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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #76 on: Sunday 06 December 20 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Here is my list about Christina Innes and James Innes. She was a daughter of William ( Senior ) Innes and a sister Alexander Innes. It's in RTF format.
I have two more names as children of William ( Senior ) Innes: Janet Innes and James Innes in Muir Glenlivet before going to the family of William ( Junior ) Innes.


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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #77 on: Sunday 06 December 20 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Here is my list about Christina Innes and James Innes. She was a daughter of William ( Senior ) Innes and a sister Alexander Innes. It's in RTF format.
I have two more names as children of William ( Senior ) Innes: Janet Innes and James Innes in Muir Glenlivet before going to the family of William ( Junior ) Innes.
Words almost fail me.

Your print-out has Issobell Alexander, born 1690, as the daughter of George Innes and Ann Grant who were married in 1835.

A daughter, with a different surname, born 145 years before her parents' marriage? What is your EVIDENCE for that? 
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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #78 on: Sunday 06 December 20 20:18 GMT (UK) »
21.3   Alexander in Kearn b1773/4 Mother Elizabeth McDonald.
21.4   James b1776/77 in Muir, Glenlivet, Banff married Barbara Stewart and had a previous marriage.
22.2   William 1822-1900 lived all his life at Craighead Farm. Married 2 Times a)Margaret Grant
          b) Margaret Shaw. He was the son of William ( Junior ) Innes and Janet Cameron.
23.2    William of Tomnamuidh, my grandfather who I met 1n 1947. He was the son of William
           1822-1900 and Margaret Shaw.
23.3    John Innes, carpenter, was a brother of to 23.2 William of Tomnamuidh.
In my view these are true.

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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #79 on: Sunday 06 December 20 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Forfarian that part is still to be proven. Start with William ( Senior ) Innes

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Re: William ( younger ) Innes
« Reply #80 on: Sunday 06 December 20 20:34 GMT (UK) »
21.3   Alexander in Kearn b1773/4 Mother Elizabeth McDonald.
Yes, the primary sources support this.

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21.4   James b 1776/77 in Muir, Glenlivet, Banff married Barbara Stewart and had a previous marriage.
Yes, the primary source says that James Innes, husband of Barbara Stewart, died in 1839 aged 62, according to a gravestone in Kirkmichael kirkyard. Barbara was in Muir in 1841, and in Tomintoul in 1851. What EVIDENCE do you have for his parentage and place of birth?

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22.2   William 1822-1900 lived all his life at Craighead Farm. Married 2 Times
a)Margaret Grant
b) Margaret Shaw. He was the son of William ( Junior ) Innes and Janet Cameron.
23.2    William of Tomnamuidh, my grandfather who I met 1n 1947. He was the son of William
           1822-1900 and Margaret Shaw.
23.3    John Innes, carpenter, was a brother of to 23.2 William of Tomnamuidh.[/quote]These facts are all supported by primary records.

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In my view these are true.
In the view of some people the Earth is flat. The fact that people believe something does not make it true if there is no EVIDENCE to support it.

Even if all the facts individually are true, what EVIDENCE do you have for all the links you postulate in your latest .rtf document?
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.