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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #36 on: Friday 20 November 20 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Abernethy!

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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #37 on: Friday 20 November 20 10:07 GMT (UK) »
FRASER   ALEXANDER   1861 census   M   72   648/ 14/ 2   Lanark   Lanark
FRASER   ALEXANDER   1871 census   M   83   648/ 10/ 8   Lanark   Lanark
This one is a gardener in 1861, and a retired gardener in 1871, born in East Lothian, though a look at the original would be necessary to decipher where. In 1861 he is listed as married, though he's not with his wife and/or family, and in 1871 he's a widower. Can't find him in 1851, but he might be the one who was a farmer at Mousebank, parish of Lanark, in 1841.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #38 on: Friday 20 November 20 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Does it say on his marriage record of 1811 what town or Parish he was from?

I can't find any mention of which town or parish he was from on his marriage record but then it is quite difficult to read. I will post a copy of it. The marriage took place in Dundee.

I have been unable to find any death record for him so can't say if this is him on any of the census records. I am also struggling to find any other children Alexander and Helen had.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #39 on: Friday 20 November 20 10:56 GMT (UK) »
It does say - it says "both in this P" - P being short for Parish. But that is only where he was living when he married. Only in 1855 marriage certificates do you get any indication of a couple's parishes of birth.

It also says "in L Militia" - not sure which Local Militia this would be, but it does hint at the possibility of finding him in militia records, if they have survived.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #40 on: Friday 20 November 20 10:59 GMT (UK) »
So does that mean they are both from that parish? I just assumed it was customary saying they wer both married in this parish. As i say i am still very new to this and trying to understand records.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #41 on: Friday 20 November 20 11:01 GMT (UK) »
So does that mean they are both from that parish? I just assumed it was customary saying they wer both married in this parish. As i say i am still very new to this and trying to understand records.
Apologies - I amended my post to say no to that.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #42 on: Friday 20 November 20 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Ahh ok haha! I did wonder what Militia was referring to and have been trying to find out more but no luck so far.

I do think i may have found a birth entry for him which lists his mother as Elspat Holm and father as Alexander Fraser in Resolis, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. No way to confrm this yet but i hsve made a note so i can come back to it if i need to.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #43 on: Friday 20 November 20 11:18 GMT (UK) »
I do think i may have found a birth entry for him which lists his mother as Elspat Holm and father as Alexander Fraser in Resolis, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland.
What makes you think that this could be his baptism? The 1851 census says he was born in Nairn, not in Ross and Cromarty.
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Re: Beginner looking for some help for my Fraser Ancestors
« Reply #44 on: Friday 20 November 20 11:34 GMT (UK) »
I do think i may have found a birth entry for him which lists his mother as Elspat Holm and father as Alexander Fraser in Resolis, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland.
What makes you think that this could be his baptism? The 1851 census says he was born in Nairn, not in Ross and Cromarty.

I'm just making notes on any that i find around the dates of 1785 so that if i do confirm it i don't have to search it out again. I don't want to rely on just census records. I do know that he was dead by 1866 so he died sometime between 1836 (after his wife died) and 1866 when his son died so i don't believe he will be on any census records after at least 1861.
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