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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 08 November 20 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Wow Viktoria....how brilliantly you make the case for such a large population of this country...
I feel quite ashamed now reading your comments when I’ve had days of feeling fed up.... I’ve nothing to complain about in comparison to the people who you are describing and have had a more fortunate life style... one which both my OH and I have worked very hard to give our children something better than we had ...
It will make me think hard in future....
Your words have been inwardly digested...
Thankyou

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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 08 November 20 00:09 GMT (UK) »
One big difference between then and now ( cholera epidemics etc) is that  it was spread by sewage contaminating drinking water .
Not really person to person contact.
Phthisis is an airborne disease but one person in a family could get it ,others not .
My mother slept with her older sister ,who died at sixteen from TB,but also had Pernicious anaemia.My mother though kept well.
The difference though was more in the social  life, the small narrow streets were conducive to illness and disease ,but also to neighbourliness .
People were in and out of one another’s houses ,older women monitored the whole street ,disciplined everyone’s children and were there for births and deaths.They were valued.Respected.
One of the worst social tragedies ever committed was when Manchester City Council carried out its slum clearance programme .
People were led to believe they would be re housed sort on en bloc ,so neighbours would be near each other .
That was not the case ,people were uprooted ,given limited choice ,  and  two refusals of entirely unsuitable locations — distance from work etc—-
and there was no choice.—
The estates were built but no shops ,families in high rise blocks ,how can a m other supervise playing children from the seventh floor.
Within months  black  mould so injurious to young childrens’ health was on ievery wall as there was nowhere to dry washing but inside.
When I visited the Drs with one or other of my children ,there were always many women on the verge of breakdowns ,pleading with the Dr.. To give  them  a note so they could get out of their  flat which was their prison.
The community and its particular ethos had gone.
People hardly “ neighbour “ any more , mother’s did not always  work, the streets were not so quiet as today with almost every one out at work all day.

The old ladies like me had the keys for neighbours as we were at home most of the time.Saw to the coal man ,paid the window cleaner and took kids in if mothers had been delayed.
So different in those far off days.
But old people were respected and had an importance in the community.
They were nothing like so lonely as nowadays.
But I am sure everyone is coping as best as they can, we are all different ,
and  whilst so much is better materially ,,things are worse in other ways.

But I for one am so glad it does not entail leaving my house night after night
to go to the underground , or the damp cold shelter .
Things are comparitive , if people are not old enough to be able to compare it is perfectly understandable they feel what us happening now is one of the worst things they have experienced.
I can sympathise with that.
Perhaps it will be realised though after this just what lonely lives older people have  very often.
Caroline ,don’t feel guilty ,you have worked hard for what you have and your family have had possibly better than you knew.
My children certainly have , but I was allowed into further education , my OH not so,for him it was seven years at night school ,three nights a week for three hours a night .
Our children have more than we ever had ,because we could let them go to
Uni etc,.I have never had my children come home with a wage packet .
After graduating their jobs were in their Uni towns .
Did not come back home to live,but always ask if I am OK financially .3
Them at Uni entailed sacrifice ,but it was OK as we had known times when there was very little ,we were not strangers  to making do and mending ,no holidays for seven years etc.We could let them do better than we had done .
It would have  been harder had we been more comfortably off .
I had lived in a house with no running water ,that had  to be carried in buckets .Honestly!
Gathering sticks for kindling .Wasn’t I lucky to know  such a simple  way of life

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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 08 November 20 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Life for previous generations was much richer in terms of neighbourliness and as you say helping one another out, this sadly has gone today... people keep more to themselves and some move from their families so no support...
moving into high rise after living in terraced streets must have been a real shock to the system and broken communities up and causing loneliness to fester... now housing is going back to small communities again so as you say let’s hope some good comes from being shut away over these past months in making people realise the importance of neighbours!
I’ve never minded helping my daughter out and have driven to London on more than one occasion to babysit for them... it’s what you do but unlike if they lived nearer I stay the night!
Both our two went to Uni and only moved back home for about 3. Inths after graduating and moving away for their jobs... although I missed them it was good for them to make their own lives...
Food for thought!

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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 08 November 20 07:53 GMT (UK) »
You do set it all down so clearly Viktoria (#37) and I am sure there are people in their late 50s and 60s who genuinely have no clue about how things used to be.
Also I am glad you highlighted the difference between cholera, and the pandemic we are enduring now, which might be better compared to what we know as the Spanish flu.
When I first lived away from my parents in the early 1970s, I was in a garret room, (a roof space,) but although I had to share toilet and bath facilities with all the people living in the rooms on the floor below, my room did have running water.
Conversely, when the NHS was born, (in the same week as my sister,) the attic bed-sit in London occupied by my parents, had no water, and my mother had to carry water in buckets up three flights of stairs, for all cooking and washing.
I don't think young people ever really empathise with older generations until older themselves, and conditions are always changing.
One of the modern innovations which drives me crazy is the mother & toddler parking spaces closest to supermarket doors. 
In the early 1980s when I had 2 children, I had no car, and there was no bus route where I lived. I walked downhill into town for my shopping, and I pushed it uphill to get back home!
That's progress.
Since nuclear families became far less common in the UK, older people do seem to be considered expendable, and sadly, I am not convinced this pandemic is teaching younger people to value older folk.
Let's hope time shows I am wrong about that.
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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 08 November 20 10:19 GMT (UK) »
To lighten this a bit, as I say ( said)to my son when he took me shopping and there were no parking spaces ,to park in mother a and child place .
I was his mother!
That comes from a story related by someone or other,Mother and son,  at a supermarket- no parking only in such a reserved place so parked for a couple of minutes.
A big vehicle with lots of child seats  but no children, pulled in next to the mother who had not got out of the car .
Out got an “ Earth mother”—— who sneered saying to the mother of the adult  son just coming out of the supermarket ,”Did they not know they were in Mother and child parking.”
Retort from mother in son’s car :- - “ Oh, yes ,but at least I have got my child with me!”
I like it!
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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 08 November 20 10:30 GMT (UK) »
 :D  I like it too.
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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 08 November 20 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful....good for her, too many young women think it’s their ‘right’.... I remember like MH when I couldn’t drive going to do the weekly shop pushing the pram and loading the under region with the weekly shop and pushing it home... why is it always uphill! Kept us fit though didn’t it....
My OH likes(liked) to do little surveys whilst waiting in a supermarket  ar park for me to shop and come out.... his choices were variable and one I remember was women parking in child friendly spaces... many with out any children... and those using disabled parking who most definitely weren’t... he did remonstrate with someone one day and they got back in their car and moved....

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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 08 November 20 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Ty I think my version of being bored isn’t that exactly, it’s lacking motivation. The same old same old others talk of is true,  but even that doesn’t quite capture it. I can read books or online ebooks, but my eyesight is an issue and my eyes get tired very easily and I find small print hard to focus , so  I lack the motivation to read.
I have plenty to do family tree wise, but the enthusiasm I once had is somehow tempered by the current situation. I have really too much time to do family tree, rather than being excited by its proposition, so my motivation is lessened.
We still look after the two grandsons so that keeps us busy three days a week, but the rest of the week is not how it used to be.
I am hoping that when life changes ( I’ll not use the phrase returns to normal) that others things will become easier, but none of us were prepared for what we are facing. Be gentle with yourself.
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Re: Boredom in Lockdown. Am I alone?
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 08 November 20 15:52 GMT (UK) »
And you, Candleflame. I'm actually more or less drawing my way through all this, commenting visually on it all, and that's doing a lot to keep me sane.
I know (vide Viktoria and others) I shouldn't moan, I've really nowt to complain about, but I'm simply so FED UP! - my last word on it all!
TY
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