202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?

[jonwarrn]

We can see numbers in St Mary's Rd on this OS map from 1950
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19&lat=51.53333&lon=0.02956&layers=173&b=1

If we scroll along to the right, and move up, we quickly get to where no. 202 should be, but it appears to be no longer there? Under Queen's Road.
We also notice the map is a different shade, and is now dated 1959!

[JenB]

Thanks jon

An earlier map, (I'm getting so lost with links that I don't know if I've already posted this  ) shows the whole of that corner area has gone, including the house which I believe to have been number 202
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/541066/183643/12/101204

As Shaun has already observed, it's quite clear that there was a residential property there at the relevant time.

Is Caroline Millard of any relevance? It's quite possible that she was simply the freeholder and that the house was tenanted at the time that nic's relative was born.

[jonwarrn]

There was a property there in the 30's, not sure if it was a different kind of property on an earlier map
It's listed in the 1940 directory, but not in the few years preceding, it's fairly elusive. Horace Harding was living nearby on the 1939 Register.
Yes, perhaps the electoral registers might help.
Jon

[JenB]

East London Observer September 1907.

Block of freehold dwelling-houses being offered for sale.

[jonwarrn]

Well spotted!

[Rosinish]

Hi Annie.  Yes, Caroline Millard’s occupation might give a clue (even if she was not living at that address). Though many years earlier, has anyone found her in the 1911 census or elsewhere? Maybe she is listed as a “midwife”.

Hi Ruskie  ,

I did find her in 1911, wasn't sure if I could post, she had no occ. & hubby was a Caffcutter & in 1939 she was a housewife, he was a Horse Keeper so no clues there although I'd wondered if they were possibly related?

Nic...Could you ask your cousin if his mother had an occ. on his BC?

Annie

[JenB]

Hi Annie.  Yes, Caroline Millard’s occupation might give a clue (even if she was not living at that address). Though many years earlier, has anyone found her in the 1911 census or elsewhere? Maybe she is listed as a “midwife”.

Hi Ruskie  ,

I did find her in 1911, wasn't sure if I could post, she had no occ. & hubby was a Caffcutter & in 1939 she was a housewife, he was a Horse Keeper so no clues there although I'd wondered if they were possibly related?

But how do you know you have found the same Caroline Millard named in the notice in 1932?

[nicdigby]

Thanks everyone for your continued help.

Caroline Millard : she is not a member of my family as far as I am aware.

The mother of My cousin was listed on his birth certificate as a dairy assistant.

His mother told him he was born in hospital and that he only weighed 2.5 pounds. She told him the hospital sent her home with him with a hot water bottle to keep him warm, but it seems he was not born in hospital at all...which begs the question as to why she said he was.

Possibilities:
He was 2.5 pounds because he was a twin. My cousin’s father had a set of twins just a couple of years before my cousin was born so twins were in his genes, it seems.

Or (given he was illegitimate and born only ten months after the birth of his father’s youngest child with his first wife) that they tried to hide the baby - they took a full year to register him. Perhaps telling him he was 2.5 pounds was part of this ruse?

But I can’t see how a single baby at 2.5 pounds - around 28/29 weeks - would have survived in what was a poor part of London; no NHS, his parents wouldn’t have been able to pay for a doctor or midwife.

The plot thickens!

[nicdigby]

Meant to write, how did 2.5 baby survive in a poor part of London to parents who couldn’t afford a doctor, when he was born in a private dwelling and not in a Hospital. It doesn’t add up. My cousin is curious about the circumstances of his birth so thank you all for trying to help him settle a few questions this has brought up.