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202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am helping my 85 year old cousin find out more about the info he has found on his newly-acquired birth certificate and he would like some help from you knowledgable people about the location of his birth as his certificate does not line up with where he was told he was born.

He was told he was born in West Ham hospital, London in the summer of 1935.

His birth cert states as location: 202 St Mary’s road and then the letters UA or VA.

The birth was registered in West Ham central.

I have googled without success and used google maps too. There is a suggestion of Plaistow being the location of st Mary’s road but his mother never lived in Plaistow or anywhere particularly close to it.

The locations that would make sense are:

1) his Mother was apparently living with her sister at time of birth in Kingston on Thames.
2) the father was based in Hornchurch, Essex at the time.
3) The birth was registered in West Ham central. The fact that the birth cert just states the road name would indicate perhaps that it’s a road local to there? But I can’t find one.
4) The rest of the family were based in Pimlico until the year before his birth, and then relocated to Wandsworth SW18 but it seems she was the black sheep of the family for being pregnant to a man married to someone else so it may be that she was not welcome there.

I can see no members of the family who lived outside of London at that time so doubtful that she was shipped off to the Home Counties to have the baby , and surely the birth cert would have given an area or town name if that was the case?
Any help with regards to the location would be much appreciated.

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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:53 GMT (UK) »
St Mary's Road Plaistow is very close to West Ham - not far away from West Ham park.

West Ham Hospital may now be the Newham Hospital, and that's just over a mile away.

Edited:  no, Newham Hospital was opened in 1963, so not that one.  What about St Mary's Hospital Plaistow,

"This hospital was founded in 1888 as a Day Nursery by Rev. T. Given-Wilson, (d. 1916), Vicar of Plaistow, who presented a site in 1892. A Day Nursery, with ward for child in-patients was erected at the expense of Rev. Henry Blisset and opened in 1893 . In 1895 the name was changed to St. Mary's Day Nursery and Hospital for Sick Children. This changed again in 1905 when the day nursery was discontinued and it became known as St. Mary's Hospital for Women and Children, Plaistow. Joseph, Lord Lister, served as president of the Charity from 1899 to his death in 1912. A new Hospital intended to provide 66 beds was begun in 1909 and completed in 1911, although only 38 beds were provided. A nurses' home was begun in 1922, by which time 58 in patient beds were provided, whilst the first section of the Out-Patients department was opened in 1928. The hospital was incorporated into the National Health Service in 1948 transferring to the control of the Regional Hospitals Board. In 1974 the Hospital, which had by now had 100 beds, became part of Newham Health District under the City and East London Area Health Authority (Teaching). The hospital closed in 1983 under the then management of Newham Health Authority and services transferred to the newly opened Newham General Hospital"
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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:57 GMT (UK) »
St Mary's Road Plaistow is very close to West Ham - not far away from West Ham park.

West Ham Hospital may now be the Newham Hospital, and that's just over a mile away.

Thank you. I see why you mean, it’s only a mile from st Mary’s road Plaistow to West Ham.

He was told he was born in West Ham hospital and not Plaistow though.

Can anyone find out whatmbuikding was at 202 st Mary’s road Plaistow? Was there a maternity hospital or cottage hospital. Google is not revealing much.

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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Plaistow maternity hospital was apparently on Howard’s and Chesterton roads, not st Mary’s road.


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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:02 GMT (UK) »
St Mary's was Upper Road, Plaistow.  That's just half a mile away from St Mary's Road

Can't see anything for 202 St Mary's Road - but googling!

I think West Ham is the larger area, not surprising that Plaistow wouldn't be mentioned, in my view
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Cotterill, Derbys.
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Kesneer Belgium/East London
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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:03 GMT (UK) »
This is likely to have been extensively bombed - not much there now at number 202.
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Kesneer Belgium/East London
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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:03 GMT (UK) »
Have found a previous rootschat thread which states that the OP’s location of birth was “26 Howard’s road” which she states was Plaistow maternity hsiotial.


So it’s not that.

What was at 202 st Mary’s road?

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Re: 202 St Mary’s Road somewhere in London - where?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:05 GMT (UK) »
St Mary's was Upper Road, Plaistow.  That's just half a mile away from St Mary's Road

Can't see anything for 202 St Mary's Road - but googling!

I think West Ham is the larger area, not surprising that Plaistow wouldn't be mentioned, in my view

Thank you for googling. I’m not getting very far.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 20 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Oh! Google.....

London gazette 1932. Hm land registry “ state guaranteed titles to land”

The following land is about to be registered.....freehold ...
 202 st Mary’s road , Upton Park, Essex, by caroline Millard of that address.

No idea what this means, does it suggest it’s a private house? The mother was unmarried so perhaps she had to find lodgings and had the baby there and told the son it was West Ham hospital to hide his illegitimacy (which he only found out about 50 years later)