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When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I recently found the Sheriff Court Paternity Decrees on a website and found my ancestor.

I saw another, much more well known, ancestry website had the same record and I decided to see if I could get the full record there, but I can't find the same person in their database no matter how I search.

Why would that be? Any ideas?

Thank you.

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:23 GMT (UK) »
If you name the web sites we might be able to comment.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:28 GMT (UK) »
I thought we couldn't name websites on here?

OldScottish.com has the Sherriff Court Paternity Decrees and has Margaret De Burg or Nolan as the Mother and George Beveridge as the Defender.

Ancestry also has the Sheriff Court Paternity Decrees Index, but I can't find Margaret or George.

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:37 GMT (UK) »
I thought we couldn't name websites on here? Anyway.

We aren't supposed to ask for look-ups on subscription websites (it's against the rules of most paid websites) and we're not allowed to post complete documents because of copyright law.   
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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:57 GMT (UK) »
I thought we couldn't name websites on here?
No reason not to name them in this context.

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OldScottish.com has the Sherriff Court Paternity Decrees and has Margaret De Burg or Nolan as the Mother and George Beveridge as the Defender.

Ancestry also has the Sheriff Court Paternity Decrees Index, but I can't find Margaret or George.
Old Scottish does the work of extracting the information, preparing the indexes and making the full details available.

Ancestry may have a mirror of the indexes, but that doesn't mean they have the full information. Maybe they haven't even got the latest updates.

Always go for the original documents, and never trust anything you find online unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary as mistakes can and do happen.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 November 20 22:57 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure why Ancestry is not showing this couple on their site. Maybe try wildcards to pick up on mistranscriptions?

I believe (I may be wrong..) that this work has been collated by Old Scottish in person from the original records. They offer the summary index on their site. Again, I believe that the origin of the index on both Ancestry and Find My Past is the information collated by Old Scottish. They only have the index on their sites.

As you can see on the Old Scottish website, you can order direct from them a copy from the original extract which will provide you with any additinal information available.

If you are interested in further info, you would need to go through their site and order this with them.

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 November 20 01:03 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry's source is "Original data: http://www.scottishindexes.com/courtsearch.aspx accessed 10th October 2017."  All data in this third-party database was obtained from the source’s website.

As far as I can see, this source has not indexed any records from the Glasgow courts.

Debra  :)

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Re: When someone appears in a record on one website but not another
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 November 20 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry's source is "Original data: http://www.scottishindexes.com/courtsearch.aspx accessed 10th October 2017."  All data in this third-party database was obtained from the source’s website.

As far as I can see, this source has not indexed any records from the Glasgow courts.
And any new information added to the Scottish Indexes web site in the last three years is missing from Ancestry's mirror.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.