William Chambers

[jonwarrn]

Hi GG
My mistake, sorry, I've done a strikethrough (like doing those!) and added the right name.
John

[jonwarrn]

1861 census, Heworth, Elizabeth says she is 40
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[Girl Guide]

Don't worry Jon we've all typed the wrong thing in the past.

I see from that census that Elizabeth was born around 1817 in Durham.  There are two possible baptisms which could be her:-

Baptism 2 March 1817 parents William and Mary, baptised at St.Hilda, South Shields

Baptism 10 September 1817 parents John and Elizabeth, baptised at St. Hilda, South Shields

I wonder if MiraMax ordered the marriage cert from the GRO whether that cert would be the post 1837 type?  In theory it should be.

[JenB]

I wonder if MiraMax ordered the marriage cert from the GRO whether that cert would be the post 1837 type?  In theory it should be.

There was a thread on here some time ago where a church in Tynemouth RD was also recording the marriages on the 'old style' forms after 1837 which is what seems to have happened here. But when the marriage certificate was purchased is was in the proper format.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Hope so! I expect Jen is right.
It's nice to see something, but those fuller details from the GRO may be needed.

Her age varies a bit. Is this her?
Newcastle Courant, 24 April 1885
Deaths
WINDY NOOK SCHOOLS, on the 17th inst., after a long and painful illness, aged 64, Elizabeth, the beloved wife of Thomas Lumley, schoolmaster, deeply lamented.

[Girl Guide]

Says 64 on here

LUMLEY, ELIZABETH       64 
GRO Reference: 1885  J Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 470

[JenB]

I wonder if MiraMax ordered the marriage cert from the GRO whether that cert would be the post 1837 type?  In theory it should be.

There was a thread on here some time ago where a church in Tynemouth RD was also recording the marriages on the 'old style' forms after 1837 which is what seems to have happened here. But when the marriage certificate was purchased is was in the proper format.

Found it! Replies #28 - #34 https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806861.msg6658993#msg6658993

[MiraMax131]

Thomas Lumley and Elizabeth were schoolteachers at Windy Nook school.  They are missing from the 1881 census altogether, for the school it says gone away but we can’t find them anywhere else.
The 1841 census best matches for Elizabeth Chambers are one in Northumberland and one in Durham.  One is with a Robert and the other is with an Ann but we can’t find an Ann who’s father is William Lumley and matches her age!  We know Elizabeth’s father is William from the England marriages 1538-1973 Tynemouth Northumberland which is on Findmypast.   Can I assume then that there is a full marriage certificate where the father is mentioned?

[Girl Guide]

The one from the GRO should be a full certificate.  I posted the reference at my Reply #5. 

If you wish you could contact the GRO just to double check that you would be getting a full marriage certificate.  Link to contact details below:-

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp