Frederick Wilcock

[Kloumann]

Still think he was the Fred born 1912 in Oldham with no MMN.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
We could do with a bit more info! Can you post the age of Frederick, occupation (was he in the forces?), occupation of Jonathan.
Anything else if it might be helpful.

[Cinirel]

This is my dilema... It's about all the inof I have.

On Fredericks marriage certif, his fathers (Jonathon) occupation is left blank.

Fredericks age in 1940 was 23 and it just says 'Soldier' as his occupation.


And thats all I have

[Ladyhawk]

An update for you.

Today I recieved the marriage cert between Frederick and Phyllis... Frederick's father was Jonathon Wilcock.

Despite searching I have been unable to find anything on Jonathon - will keep searching.

Thanks for the update - have you looked into the names of the witnesses? Were they related?

[Cinirel]

Thanks for the update - have you looked into the names of the witnesses? Were they related?
[/quote]

The witnesses are not related to either Frederick or Phyllis 

[jonwarrn]

Fredericks age in 1940 was 23 and it just says 'Soldier' as his occupation.

May have a possibility, if that age is right.
Best matching birth reg is
March 1917 Chorlton 8c 1266
Wilcock, Frederick   
mother Bailey   

There's a possible sibling registered in Chorlton in the June quarter 1914, John Thomas Wilcock, mother Bailey.

Going back, using the new GRO birth index, there is another one
WILCOCK, JANE       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BAILEY 
GRO Reference: 1910  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 813

So we can look for her in the 1911 census free index
In South Manchester, Chorlton upon Medlock
Jane Wilcock, daughter, apparently of Jonathan and Fanny
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBG-J5V

[jonwarrn]

Is there a marriage?

Possible death?
June 1943 Blackpool 8e 705
Wilcock, Jonathan   
age 78   

Probate in 1943, Jonathan Wilcock of 5 Squires Gate Lane Blackpool, executor is Annie Wilcock, widow
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=wilcock&yearOfDeath=1943&page=2#calendar

[Ladyhawk]

Fredericks age in 1940 was 23 and it just says 'Soldier' as his occupation.

May have a possibility, if that age is right.
Best matching birth reg is
March 1917 Chorlton 8c 1266
Wilcock, Frederick     mother Bailey   

There's a possible sibling registered in Chorlton in the June quarter 1914, John Thomas Wilcock, mother Bailey.

Going back, using the new GRO birth index, there is another one
WILCOCK, JANE       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1910  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 813

So we can look for her in the 1911 census free index
In South Manchester, Chorlton upon Medlock
Jane Wilcock, daughter, apparently of Jonathan and Fanny
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBG-J5V

Jonathan married previously here he is with dau Alice on 1901 census, wife is Elizabeth

Piece:   3694 Folio:   88 Page Number:   10
62 Rusholme Rd    
Jonathan Wilcock   36 Blackburn , Paint Decorator House
Elizabeth Wilcock   40 Northumberland Restaurant Proprietors Coffee
Sarah J ECCLESTON dau   21
Mary C Eccleston dau   18
Robert H Eccleston son    14
Alice Wilcock dau   7 Blackpool
Charles Files boarder    43
Alice Atchin serv   34
Sarah Atchin    3

and here's his marriage to Elizabeth

Jonathan WILCOCK age 36, painter, 2 Stand Street
Father Jonathan, Farmer

Elizabeth ECCLESTON 39, widow, 2 Strand Street
father Edward PRINGLE, Inspector of Police

married on 19 Sep 1900 at St Andrew Ancoats Lancashire
Witnesses Frederick Townsend & Mary Catherine Eccleston

1891
Piece: 3401 Folio: 143 page 44
Jonathan Wilcock   63 Hide dealer
Margaret Wilcock   57
Jonathan Wilcock   26 Blackburn Lancashire cab proprietor

1881 Piece:   4189 Folio:   8 Page 9
Jonathan age 16 Blackburn with his parents  occ painter

[Ladyhawk]

Going back, using the new GRO birth index, there is another one
WILCOCK, JANE 
     
Mother's Maiden Surname: BAILEY 
GRO Reference: 1910  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 813

So we can look for her in the 1911 census free index
In South Manchester, Chorlton upon Medlock

Jane Wilcock, daughter, apparently of Jonathan and Fanny
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBG-J5V

Jane Wilcock Baptism 21 Dec 1910 Manchester, St Paul, Brunswick Street, Lancashire
Parish as it Appears:   Chorlton on Medlock, St Paul
Father:   Jonathan, window cleaner Mother:   Fanny , 61 Market Street

Minnie Wilcock Birth    22 Jan 1897
Baptism 4 Apr 1897 Ancoats, St Andrew, Lancashire
Father:   Jonathan Wilcock, restaurant keeper  Mother:Elizabeth abode 150 London Road

Minnie WILCOCK mmm PRINGLE
1897  M Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 275

Private Baptism
Margaret Wilcock Birth 19 Jan 1900
Baptism 26 Jan 1900 Hulme, Holy Trinity, Lancashire
Father:   Jonathan , window cleaner Mother:   Elizabeth, abode 32 Silk St

Margaret WILCOCK mmn PRINGLE
1900  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 986