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Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« on: Tuesday 20 October 20 05:50 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Could anyone help me with the names (or anything written) below in the red box?
I know the husbands name is Edwin McPherson Clark and the wife to be Annie Robertson.
I believe Annie's fathers name is Duncan McNicol (from what's written) and Edwin's dads name is possibly James. I really can't read anything else, any help with anything written is greatly appreciated!

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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 05:58 BST (UK) »
Annie Robertson McNICOL
Her father is Duncan McNicol. Not sure of  his occupation but could be Slater
Her mother is Catherine McNicol M.S (maiden surname) ROBERTSON

at 27 or 37 Oswald Street, Glasgow.
By Declaration in the presence of

James McNicol, Catherine McNicol and Nigel someone.  I can’t be sure of their addresses.

You could ask Scotland’s people to provide a better image than this.

Edwin McPherson Clark is some sort of Fitter
His father is James Thomas Clark, a Tea Box maker
His mother is Sarah m.s. Wi- - e.     Possibly WISHE. But I am not confident

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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 06:19 BST (UK) »
Annie Robertson McNICOL
Her father is Duncan McNicol. Not sure of  his occupation but could be Slater
Her mother is Catherine McNicol M.S (maiden surname) ROBERTSON

at 27 or 37 Oswald Street, Glasgow.
By Declaration in the presence of

James McNicol, Catherine McNicol and Nigel someone.  I can’t be sure of their addresses.

You could ask Scotland’s people to provide a better image than this.

Edwin McPherson Clark is some sort of Fitter
His father is James Thomas Clark, a Tea Box maker
His mother is Sarah m.s. Wi- - e.     Possibly WISHE. But I am not confident

Thank you for your repsonse!
Would you know if it was it common for someone to change their middle name once they got married?
I have other documents from after their marriage that shows 'Annie McNicol Clark' Not Robertson, I had assumed Robertson was her maiden name for sometime now.

I will definitely ask Scotland's people for a clearer image!

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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 06:25 BST (UK) »
The Scots will be awake soon,  and might have a different view but I think when she goes by Annie McNicol Clark she is referring to her maiden name. 

And at her marriage Annie Robertson McNicol obviously refers to her mother’s maiden name, and is probablY how she was registered.

Perhaps here.

Birth

MCNICOL
ANNIE ROBERTSON
F
1902
564/1 962
Greenock East

Death

CLARK
ANNIE ROBERTSON
44
1947
644/6 808
Townhead

Same registration

MCNICOL
ANNIE ROBERTSON
44
1947
644/6 808
Townhead



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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 06:35 BST (UK) »
I am wondering about the witnesses to the declaration. Perhaps not Catherine McNicol.  She may have died in child birth?


MCNICOL
CATHERINE
33
1902
564/1 460
Greenock

ROBERTSON
CATHERINE
33
1902
564/1 460
Greenock East

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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 06:48 BST (UK) »
I concur with Mckha489. Request a better image from Scotland’s People, they are very obliging! Column 7 reads “  Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Lanarkshire dated February 20th 1923   “
Sarah’s maiden surname possibly “   Wylie   “.
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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 07:03 BST (UK) »
The Scots will be awake soon,  and might have a different view but I think when she goes by Annie McNicol Clark she is referring to her maiden name. 

And at her marriage Annie Robertson McNicol obviously refers to her mother’s maiden name, and is probablY how she was registered.

Perhaps here.

Birth

MCNICOL
ANNIE ROBERTSON
F
1902
564/1 962
Greenock East

Death

CLARK
ANNIE ROBERTSON
44
1947
644/6 808
Townhead

Same registration

MCNICOL
ANNIE ROBERTSON
44
1947
644/6 808
Townhead

Thank you!! I found her death certificate!!

Honestly, I need to check Scotland's People more, at least this document is clear.
It has her parents information on it so at least that answers one question :)

But I will request a clearer copy from them of the marriage certificate!

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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 07:17 BST (UK) »
I read the certificate as follows:

1923
On the twentieth day of February at 27 Oswald Street, Glasgow
By declaration in presence of James McKay of ?? Street Glasgow and C?? McM  ?? Road, Glasgow

Edwin McPherson Clark    23
Edwin M. Clark / Engine Fitter / Bachelor

Annie Robertson McNicol   21
Annie R. McNicol / Spinster

400 (or 460?) Cumberland Street, South Glasgow
10 Caithness Street, Glasgow

James Thomas Clark / Tea Box Maker
Sarah Clark ms (maiden surname) W?

Duncan McNicol / Slater
Catherine McNicol ms (maiden surname) Robertson (deceased)

Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Lanarkshire / Dated February 20th 1923

1923 February 23rd / At Glasgow / Signature
Adams, Bamber, Cleverley, Earwaker, Frake, Holt, Lacy, Laming, Levett, Lipscomb(e), Newlyn, Pett, Smith (Hampshire); Hill (Alverstoke and Middlesex); Holt (Dorset); Lacy (London, Kent)

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Re: Help reading an old Scottish marriage certificate!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 October 20 07:23 BST (UK) »

Sarah’s maiden surname possibly “   Wylie   “.

Marriage


CLARK
JAMES THOMAS
WYLIE
SARAH
1886
564/2 10
Greenock