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Offline Delphia

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Help with finding a family
« on: Sunday 11 October 20 19:58 BST (UK) »
I have a birth certificate for Sarah Maria Dobinson born 8/4/1871.  Registrar's District Bethnal Green, Middlesex.  Father is Charles Dobinson.  Mother is Caroline Dobinson formerly Sprickett.  Father's occupation Button Maker.  X The mark of Caroline Dobinson mother 52 Camden Street, Bethnal Green, informant.

Have been unable to find family on 1871, 1881, 1891 census.

Not found a baptism or death for Sarah Maria, and no marriage between a Charles Dobinson and a Caroline Sprickett.

The birth is on GRO with the MMN of Sprickett.

Can any one find them?

Thanks

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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 October 20 20:20 BST (UK) »
Any siblings found on gro?
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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 October 20 20:27 BST (UK) »
This must surely be them in disguise in the 1871 census:

52 Camden St, Bethnal Green

Charles Picket Head Mar 24 labourer Bethnal Green
Caroline do Wife Mar 22 Bethnal Green
Do do Daur 1 week Bethnal Green

RG10/495/39/10 (“Picker” on Ancestry).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 October 20 20:42 BST (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Sunday 11 October 20 20:27 BST (UK)
This must surely be them in disguise in the 1871 census:

52 Camden St, Bethnal Green

Charles Picket Head Mar 24 labourer Bethnal Green
Caroline do Wife Mar 22 Bethnal Green
Do do Daur 1 week Bethnal Green

RG10/495/39/10 (“Picker” on Ancestry).

Having said that, given that the census was taken on 2 April 1871 the baby shouldn’t have been recorded (as not yet born on census date). So: either she was wrongly included when the census form was returned after census day, or she was born earlier than her birth registration records.

What was the date of registration?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 October 20 20:46 BST (UK) »
Baptism, April 16th  shows birthdate  of 22nd March.
Charles Dobinson is a Metal Melter, 52 Camden Street

Added - child is Sarah Maria as birth registration
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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 October 20 20:57 BST (UK) »
Sorry not got back before internet went down.

The birth certificate for Sarah Maria shows the 18th May 1871 for the registration.

Must confess did not think to look for other siblings on GRO.

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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 October 20 21:03 BST (UK) »
Where do you have Charles or Caroline before 1871?
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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 October 20 21:19 BST (UK) »
It looks like a complicated chronology after 1871.

1874: Caroline marries as “Catherine” Dobinson (dau of Joseph Dobinson) to Thomas Cowell.
1881: Thomas and Carry Cowell have Carry Cowell, 11, in their household.
1891: Thomas and Caroline Cowell again have Caroline Cowell, 21, with them.
1892: The younger Caroline marries, as Sarah Maria Cowell, to William Welfare.
1901 & later: She is recorded by the name of Caroline/Caraline Welfare.

Am I on the right lines?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help with finding a family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 October 20 21:22 BST (UK) »
 :) Well done if you are right - looks complicated!
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