Davidson family Killough county Down

[vronlady]

Time for the annual dusting off  of my brickwalls to see if anything new has come up.

I start at the marriage of Robert Davidson to Eleanor McCullough on 26 February 1862 • Rathmullan Church of Ireland, Rathmullen, County down

By license. Witnesses William Murphy & Benjamin Robinson

He resided at st Johns Point Killough.His father is given as Arthur Davidson labourer.

I have also found an Arthur Davidson of St Johns Point with a father Arthur Davidson, labourer so am assuming this is his brother.  I have also found three other possible siblings Ellen, James and Mary Jane. I can follow these people forwards but am no further forward on finding Arthur senior or who was his wife or any other info going backwards. I have been to Killough and looked at the Killough church parish records and can find no Davidsons appearing earlier than these dates so think they moved into the area but where from? Downpatrick or further afield?

Eleanor McCullough father was Joseph Mccullough shoemaker of Killough. Again I have made no prgress in going backwards from her.

Any help in breaking down these brickwalls gratefully received.

[aghadowey]

I start at the marriage of Robert Davidson to Eleanor McCullough on 26 February 1862 • Rathmullan Church of Ireland, Rathmullen, County down
Bride's name is Ellen-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1862/09628/5491892.pdf
Remember that marriages usually take place in the bride's church and residences are where the couple are living at the time of the marriage and that may not be where they were from or where their family were living.

I have also found an Arthur Davidson of St Johns Point with a father Arthur Davidson, labourer so am assuming this is his brother.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1862/09628/5492027.pdf

Have you ruled out the Arthur Davidson, age 65, died 1865 Downpatrick district as the father?
Certificate not yet online but can be viewed on GRONI's site- it's in Killough sub-district-
D/1865/104/1011/1/176   Arthur   Davison   8th December 1865   65      Male   Downpatrick(pre-1973 Q4)

There's a link to someone possibly researching Robert's family (click link onright side of Robert's entry)-
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/genealogy/SURNAMES/D/Davidson.htm

[gaffy]

Given that Arthur is the only Davi(d)son showing for Saint John's Point in Griffith's valuation (print date 1863), the following 1871 death of a 66 year old widow Mary Anne Davison may be of relevance (note place of death and informant name):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020760/7283036.pdf

[Kiltaglassan]

Given that Arthur is the only Davi(d)son showing for Saint John's Point in Griffith's valuation (print date 1863), the following 1871 death of a 66 year old widow Mary Anne Davison may be of relevance (note place of death and informant name):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020760/7283036.pdf

Informant Robert Davison living in Killough.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/lecale-upper/rathmullan/killough/

Mary Anne's home is in St John's Point townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/lecale-upper/rathmullan/saint-johns-point/

KG

[vronlady]

thank you all for your interest.

I did have the certificates for robert and arthurs marriages hence my assumption of them being brothers and can follow them forward down the years.

I did wonder if that Arthur was mine but wondered how useful the death certificate may be. will have to follow that up.

The person you mentioned on ros davies site is me.

thank you for the mary ann death . i did not have that. Wonder if she is the mum. shame the informant doesnt have relationship on it.

I did make a visit to Ireland about 5 years ago and wandered in their foot steps . St johns point has an unusual yellow and black lighthouse. Think it might have been very bleak in winter. Killough is now a sleepy place with wide harbour. Bustling back then though.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

I start repeating information hoping the extra probe finds something not known to you
Robert and Ellen  marriage by license in the parish church of Rathmullana church Wed 26th Feb 1862 Robert in his marriage signed with his mark. Ellens address was Killough village itself and her father Joseph the two witnesses were Benjamin Robinson and William murphy.
The day before 25th Feb 1862 Arthur and Catherine married at the Registrars office in Downpatrick both signed using their mark and witnesses james feagan and Ellen Smyth dau of john smith

from http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/D/Davidson.htm for Bright Davidson
DAVIDSON   family   Bright   living in Carman's Row, Killough c. 1900   KCL p 25
Mr. DAVIDSON Bright a farmer;living in Castle St, Killough c. 1900   KCL p 24
Arthur   DAVI(D)SON. Down & Bright son of Arthur Davidson ; married Catherine Smith/ Smyth 25 Feb 1862 in Downpatrick; father of Catherine b. 18 Jun 1865 & Ellen Jane b. 8 May 1868 & Arthur b. 1 May 1873 (regd. Killough) note WHY HAS THIS ENTRY STARTED WITH DOWN ? because he married in Downpatrick presumably because Catherine his spouse lived there or for other reasons. you could go down all the Davidson Down entries if wondering any other reason eg a mixed Christian marriage etc
Mrs Ellen DAVIDSON. Bright of Killough; a grocer in 1910 POD
Miss Hazel DAVIDSON. Bright danced at a concert in Killough 11 Dec 1926   DR*
Mrs Jane DAVIDSON Bright of Killough in 1910   POD
Miss Mary Jane DAVIDSON. Bright   married William Pollock 1873; sister of Ellen; mother of Arthur   LR 2007 p33,34
Mr Ralph DAVIDSON   . Bright of Ballycam; won 2nd prize at Ardglass motor treasure hunt 12 Nov 1937   DR
Robert    DAVIDSON DAVISON Rathmullan & Bright son of Arthur Davidson; married Ellen McCullough 26 Feb 1862 in Rathmullan ; father of Robert b. 19 Sep 1864 & Margaret b. 22 Apr 1869 & Joseph b. 29 Jun 1871 & William b. 16 Feb 1874 (regd.Killough)   CR; Trudy Davison
there is an entry just one for Davidson in Rathmullan parish
Robert   DAVIDSON DAVISON   . Rathmullan & Bright   son of Arthur Davidson; married Ellen McCullough 26 Feb 1862 in Rathmullan ; father of Robert b. 19 Sep 1864 & Margaret b. 22 Apr 1869 & Joseph b. 29 Jun 1871 & William b. 16 Feb 1874 (regd.Killough)   CR; Txxxx Dxxxxxx

so we have Txxxx Dxxxxxx supplying information to Ros Davies, which suggests the spelling alternative entries Davison need to be investigated further than Txxxx’s info eg
J.DAVISON .Bright a Protestant; father of Margaret (illegitimate) bpt. 8 Mar 1859 at the Catholic Church - mother was Mary Caulfield of Killough   PR .  Two Davison of Down listed in 1796 Flax growers etc .  Txxxxx isn’t listed under ros davies messages for contact details

TAB
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/bright-parish.php
Davidson no entries
McCullogh, James Townland: Kilbride Year: 1834
McCullogh, Jas. Townland: Kilbride Year: 1832
McCullogh, Joseph Townland: Ballycam Year: 1832
McCullogh, Joseph Townland: Ballycam Year: 1834
McCullogh, Ralph Townland: Kilbride Year: 1832
McCullogh, Ralph Townland: Kilbride Year: 1834
McCullogh, Robert Townland: Ballycam Year: 1832
McCullogh, Robert Townland: Ballycam Year: 1834
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/rathmullan-parish.php
Davidson   no entries
McCullagh, Archy. Townland: St. Johns Point Year: 1833
McCullagh, Wm. Townland: St. Johns Point Year: 1833
McCullough, Archbd. Townland: St. Johns Point Year: 1833
McCullough, Wm. Townland: Killough Year: 1833
McCullough, Wm. Townland: St. Johns Point Year: 1833
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/down-parish.php
Davidson, Saml. Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Davidson, Widow Townland: Tullymurry Year: 1833
Davidson, Wm. Townland: Tullymurry Year: 1833
Davison, Joseph Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833

tried quickly
Genes Reunited,
a joseph mccullagh b 1861 co down tree holder peter
wikitree familysearch.org,nothing obvious
Church records
http://www.rosdavies.com/PHOTOSwords/BrightAll.htm#cathkill 
you have visited Rathmullan Church of Ireland in Rathmullan then Bright Parish south of Downpatrick , on Scollogs Road  however have you also visited or searched Bright Church of Ireland in Bright townland or other churches    Have you discovered if familysearch.org microfilmed any records and are you aware of PRONI Belfast gave a downloadable guide to church records as does ros davies but they differ Ros adding in familysearch.org etc
have you seen the accompanying map for Arthur Sen and junior at St johns point rathmullan on griffiths valuation via askaboutireland ie
Arthur junior map ref 7 b in st johns point townland showing house valued at 10 shillingspa
Arthur senior map ref 7d in st johns point townland showing house valued at 15 shillingspa
where I also found Wm mcCullagh at map ref 2 with 6 acres land no house and Wm McCullagh  junior 9 acres and house valued £1 five shillingspa the census 1901 shows mcullough 14 st johns point is C of I
hoping something useful for your quest
good luck onwards

[vronlady]

thank you very much for all that hard work. I do have most of it but it is very useful to see it all collated together like that.

For your info i am TD who supplied info to Ros davis

the later davidsons ie ralph and hazel are the children of a john william davidson who I am trying to connect to my family tree. I have met and spoken to their descendants to  try and discover a link but no luck so far. He seems to have come from Ballywooden area so was wondering if that was were my davidsons came from too. The other davidsons do all belong to my tree except the J davison , father of an illigitimate daughter who I have no idea about.

The spelling has always been davidson within the family but have always included davison as well when searching.

I just seem to have hit the proverbial brickwall with my davidson and associated families - McCullough and McDowell.

Once again thank you for your interest