Burial 1860 at Fiddler's Point N.S.W.

[majm]

More accounts of the accident. It was 3 miles from Kiamba. He was taken to Adams's Hotel - where was that?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5679818?searchTerm=%22albury%22%20coach%20accident5

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111785433?searchTerm=%22albury%22%20coach%20accident

Three miles from Kyeamba ... steep hills, many creeks. 

Please do post any info from NSWBDM ... it is unusual for them to provide a deep search without charging a fee.  The newspaper findings would have been easily accessed by researchers going to the National Library or the NSW State Library decades ago, long before internet.  My living ancient rellies, former senior officers with NSWBDM eagerly await to hear how this progresses.

Wasn't going to order.... I am in communications already with NSWBMD's and we are trying to work this problem out, will ask them to check this record, I know burial day so maybe I can eliminate from that. They have all the proof of what I have so these two new news clipping will narrow it down further'
BMD's have been very helpful so far so fingers crossed.
I have 2 incorrect certificates for this death already fortunately back 2000 and 2004 so not as expensive as they are now.

JM

[majm]

NSW BDM has appointed official transcription agents .... there are 3 at present. Each  provides excellent service, well respected by all family history groups.  Much easier to conduct research when someone is professionally trained and very familiar with the handwriting scripts of the deputy registrars, and cheaper as well.

JM

[majm]

  still one finger typing into tiny box.

Go to NSW archives ... Publicans ... look for Harry or Henry ADAMS who had a hotel about 10 miles west of Kyeamba for much of the 1850s into the 1860s.  ... Little Billabong Creek.   

Thanks to one of my ancient rellies  looking from his armchair through online indexes 

Add The Woolpack Inn a/or Australia Arms...

JM

[majm]

Hi, 

On the 1865 marriage image from Vic BDM,  what details re her widowhood (date etc) did Emma give?  Ref 1427/1865.

JM

[majm]

Right,  watch my spelling ...

Historic civil parish maps,  for NSW

Parish of Little BILLABUNG
County of Goulburn
Land district of ALBURY

On the main road from Kyeamba, South, to quite a few parcels of land for Alexander and John ROSS.

On western side of that main road  50 acres in name of Henry ADAMS, 

Lower Right hand corner A.O. map no. 113976 or perhaps 11396.  Goldfields maps.  (Hopefully that's enough to help my ancient rellies sort further...)

JM

[majm]

There is a burial ground immediately south of Henery ADAMS 50 acres.

Also on same map is Lunt's Vale Cemetery, formally dedicated 1873.

JM

[suzyvan]

There is a burial ground immediately south of Henery ADAMS 50 acres.

Also on same map is Lunt's Vale Cemetery, formally dedicated 1873.

JM

yes 23 march 1860

[suzyvan]

oops that didn't go where  intended it....lol   

[majm]

Also, clearly noted burial ground on Edward DUNN's 50 acres (adjoining Henry ADAMS 50 acres) at the following AO Map 41659 at the LRS historic parish maps website.

Also
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/about/environment/protecting-heritage/old-hume-highway/old-hume-hwy-home.html

 https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/about/environment/protecting-heritage/hume-highway-duplication/history-begins-with-a-road.pdf  (130 book, very detailed).  The section 9 covers from Tarcutta to Holbrook - so it includes Kyeamba and Little Billabong. pdf page numbers 92 - 93 have good details.

There is a burial ground immediately south of Henery ADAMS 50 acres.

Also on same map is Lunt's Vale Cemetery, formally dedicated 1873.

JM

yes 23 march 1860

So when Mrs Carr next married it was in Victoria.  That is very fortunate for family historians, for the Vic BDMs are amongst the most detailed in the world. Hopefully that m.c. will have details about her parentage and her own origins that may not be on her NSW BDM 1859 m.c.  So in 1865 she gave her widowhood had commenced 23 March 1860.  To me, there is no need to search further for a NSW death certificate for Patrick CARR.  I doubt that the Registrar General's Office processed any notification of it in 1860.  The newspaper reports plus the 1859 NSW marriage and the 1865 Vic marriage are more than sufficient to confirm that the Mr Carr who died as a result of that Mail Coach accident and taken to Mr Adams Hotel where he succumbed at around 10 pm 23 March 1860 is all the validation you need. 

JM