Ethel Quin

[IgorStrav]

Well done for crossing off that other potential, Carole.

Can't currently see in British Newspapers anything for Charles/Charlie Richardson 1/1/1998 - 1/8/1998.

I wonder whether the death cert would say anything else - I'm not proposing to invest in it, but possibly Ethel's daughter might.  I appreciate that death certificates are notoriously uninformative.
The US habit of extensive obituaries, including family members and other helpful details, are rarer in the UK sadly.

[IgorStrav]

Reply received from Richardson tree owner but he has no info re Ethel after the marriage. 

 

How available are divorce records for the 1960/70's?

I see (thanks Google) that if you don't know the date/case number of a divorce in the UK, a search over 10 years (5 years either side of your specified date) costs £45.

The difficulty with this of course is that if neither party wants to re-marry, then there is not much need to divorce, but simply separate and live with other partners.

So even if Charlie and Ethel's marriage didn't last, they may not have divorced.  We have not found children, either.


Added:  I have been trying to search other countries' death records with a birth date of 19/1/1928 for an Ethel, but no joy.

[jonwarrn]

Ethel's grandfather, William George Quin was however a 'general fitter - engineering) in the 1939.

Mr. Quin married again to Florence Lowe, a younger widow, 4 Oct 1924, Salford.
George Wills was a witness
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3MJ-L9RT

(my incorrigible nosiness).

Any occupation for Charlie (he was only 11 on the 1939 Register!)
Address of Ethel?

The Quin name appeared on all three of Ethel's marriage records, so maybe she did stay Richardson after 1959.

Didn't know that you had purchased those certificates, I am gobsmacked.
John

[jonwarrn]

Charlie didn't leave a will so no clues there

Can we be sure?
His death was in June 1998 in Slough and he is indexed as both Charlie Richardson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZX-71ML

and Charles Richardson!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZX-71MN

I can't see another plain Charles Richardson death in England and Wales in June, but there is a probate record
Charles Richardson, died 2 June 1998
Date of probate 15 October 1998
Type - Grant and will   
Registry - Winchester   
Probate number 9852429011

[CaroleW]

Jon - you little gem

His death was registered twice  (his birth was registered as Charlie)

Charlie Richardson aged 69 b 13 Sep 1928  Jun 1998  Slough  A29C  3211A  202

Charles Richardson aged 69 b  13 Sep 1928  Jun 1998 Slough  A29C  3211A  202

Downloading a copy of the will for £1.50 could help

Igor & 1 are also pursuing another line at the moment but it's early days
 

[jonwarrn]

Hi Carole
He is just Charles on new GRO death index? They only do things once!
RICHARDSON, CHARLES       
Year of Birth: 1928 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/1998 in Slough  (3211A)  Reg A29C  Entry Number 202

That is right, isn't it, death was in the month of June? Hope so!
John

[CaroleW]

I think that will entry is looking very worthwhile

EDIT

Am just going to download a copy - probably next week before it arrives

EDIT - done - now the wait begins

[jonwarrn]

Jolly decent of you, Carole.
I do hope it's right

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 on FamilySearch
Search for deaths after 1983 and the results give you month of death (as "other")
Click on an individual record and it changes to Registration Quarter (i.e Apr-May-Jun)

So hopefully Charlie did die in June. Phew!
Good luck

EDIT
I surely should have said month of registration Anyway, death on 2nd June looks good.
John

[CaroleW]

I can feel in my old bones that it's the right will.