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« on: Saturday 19 September 20 12:59 BST (UK) »
Hello  hopefully Im on the right section for Emley . I' am looking into a fatal accident which happened with a colliery worker with a horse and cart on a bridge, it was in a archive news paper and very detailed as to what happened but no name of bridge . he is a important part of my tree . He worked for a Sir John lister, Lister keys near Emley  date would of been 1861 in which the accident happened .I would love to know where the bridge is to visit along with going to the grave which is in St Micheal of Arcangle church . I' have looked for the bridge but still have no idea which one .Thankyou for any help you can give .
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Re: Bridge
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 September 20 15:43 BST (UK) »
Hello  hopefully Im on the right section for Emley . I' am looking into a fatal accident which happened with a colliery worker with a horse and cart on a bridge, it was in a archive news paper and very detailed as to what happened but no name of bridge . he is a important part of my tree . He worked for a Sir John lister, Lister keys near Emley  date would of been 1861 in which the accident happened .I would love to know where the bridge is to visit along with going to the grave which is in St Micheal of Arcangle church . I' have looked for the bridge but still have no idea which one .Thankyou for any help you can give .

wonder if the bridge is named on the Death Certificate - place of death?

what was the guy's name?

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 September 20 15:44 BST (UK) »
So the accident happened in 1861 - can we have the name please, so that we can look at the newspaper account?

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 September 20 15:47 BST (UK) »
Have you looked on the 1861 census for Lister?  You can page back and forth and look at the addresses which may help or on old maps perhaps.

Did he die before the census that year ( 7 April ) or after?
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 September 20 16:22 BST (UK) »
Name is John Wilkinson - Huddersfield Chronicle - 12 January 1861.  John is aged 32, left a wife and 3 children, he had only worked in this capacity for 3 weeks..  Killed on the tramway from the colliery - so we're looking for a rail-type bridge.   Buried 13 January 1861.

 

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 September 20 16:30 BST (UK) »
And I think that the colliery owner was Sir John Lister Lister-Kaye - I could, of course, be totally wrong  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 September 20 16:41 BST (UK) »
Could this be his family in 1861 -  RG9/3417 folio 47 page 21 - Emley

Mary A Wilkinson - 34 - Widow - Receiving parochial relief
Ellen - 9
Elisabeth A - 6
Henry - 4
John - 2 months, so born after John's death  :'(
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 September 20 17:02 BST (UK) »
I might be wrong about that family in 1861.  I can see baptisms at Emley for all those children, but John is said to be a Weaver - including the baptism for John in 1861 = John Wilkinson, weaver, deceased.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 September 20 17:30 BST (UK) »
I haven't found a map from 1861, but on later ones I could only see one colliery with a tramway in the parish of Emley. This is Park Mill Colliery, which is just inside the parish boundary but closer to the settlement of Clayton West. It's in the top right quarter of this map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/100948769

There appear to be various bridges where the road and tramway cross the river. "Bridge" is shown on the road at this point, but I don't know if that's simply a descriptive term or what the area became known as; on other editions of the map the wording there is "Park Mill Bridge".