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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #126 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 10:35 GMT (UK) »
This morning, I received the death certificate for George Marsden. He died Mar 10, 1932 due to being accidently run down by a car. He was age 57 and he lived at 53 Manchester Street, Builder's laborer, which, due to address,  I would say makes him the husband of Hannah Bertha who died 1915. Whether he was the husband of Annie is unknown. There is no mention of any relationship and the informant was R.S. Lodger, Coroner, after inquests held Mar 11 and Mar 16. Due to his occupation as Builder's laborer, he might be the husband of Annie, as her George Marsden was a builder's laborer. Due to the accidental death, it might be in the newspaper, but BNA does not have newspapers from 1932, as per John's earlier reply.
Oh dear, now what?
Peggy
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #127 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peggy
Thanks for letting us know!
It certainly does clear up the death of the much discussed George of Manchester Street, so it will no doubt be of interest to a good few people!
How sad that he died in an accident, and it is an unexpected twist. I too feel it might have been reported in the newspapers. Why they don't fill in those gaps on BNA I do not know. I wonder if the inquest details survive?

I haven't come across another George who was a builder's labourer, but it is of course possible there was one. Where does it leave us? Still guessing! It does seem he might have been Annie's husband, we just need a bit of proof.
We'll get there!
John

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #128 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 11:42 GMT (UK) »
I checked for a will for George for several years after his death, up to 1938, but didn't find one on gov.uk.
Peggy
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #129 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 12:01 GMT (UK) »
I don't have much luck with wills in my family. Most people didn't make one, and I guess George wasn't expecting to die then anyway. No administration either.
John


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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #130 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 20:39 GMT (UK) »
I have written to the Salford community leisure centre which houses the local history library. If it is open now I am hoping they will have copies of any newspaper articles regarding George Marsden’s death in 1932.
Peggy
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #131 on: Friday 11 December 20 21:28 GMT (UK) »
I had a reply from the Salford Community Leisure Centre asking me to write to the Local History Library which I did and got an automated reply asking me to write to the Salford Community Leisure Centre so I guess I'll get a reply from someone when things get back in operation.
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #132 on: Friday 11 December 20 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Going round in circles!
I think it would be good to find out if there really was an Annie Marsden living with George Marsden at 53 Manchester Street in Salford around 1921-1925 or 26, and if there was, if she stopped appearing there sometime during that period.
Is it worth asking for a look up during the next few days on here?
John



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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #133 on: Saturday 12 December 20 02:12 GMT (UK) »
I think we have now found the proof that the George Marsden who lived on 53 Manchester St. is the same George who was Annie Brown’s husband. Annie is living there in 1923 with her son John Edward Brown. In 1925, George is with his son Frank from his first marriage to Hannah Bertha Sanvidge. Yahoo! This info resulted from my lookup request on this site.
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Electoral Rolls
53 Manchester Street
1923
John Edward Brown
Annie Marsden
George Marsden
1924
John Edward Brown
George Marsden
1925
Frank Marsden
George Marsden
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #134 on: Saturday 12 December 20 04:35 GMT (UK) »
More Electoral Rolls showing George continuing to live with his children from his first marriage and Annie living elsewhere with her two sons. I have yet to figure out if there is any family connection between Eliza Jones and Annie.
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1930
30 Kellett Street     
John Edward Brown
Eliza Jones
Annie Marsden
1931
30 Kellett Street
Annie Brown
Robert Brown
John Edward Brown
Eliza Jones 
Records online only up to 1931   
1930/31 at 2a Kellett Street is Turner family(this is address of Annie when she died).
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More George at No 53
1926 with Frank Marsden and Ernest Cordwell
1927 as 1926 plus Joseph Alexander Marsden
1928 as 1927
1929 with Frank Marsden and Ernest and Florence Cordwell
1930 with Joseph Alexander and Sarah Ellen Marsden
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