Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932

[Peggy13]

Are you able to bring up Annie's marriage, like you did Florence's? Or do I have to order? If Annie remarried to Marsden, that would explain why we couldn't find her death under Johnston or Johnson or Brown or Keen.
We need some obits of someone, Annie or John Edward or Robert - I am a great believer in obits.
Annie supposedly had 2 older sisters, Margaret and Bessie. Not that I have ever found them. They would have been born in Ireland of course, like Annie who was born in Urbal/Urble, Coagh, Co. Tyrone in 1870. Sisters used to visit Annie in Salford.
Onwards, to looking for Annie's remarriage.
Peggy

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Lancashire BMD says Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Which means not at a parish church, quite possibly at a register office.
Note that it gives no indication of another surname for the Annie Brown who married George Marsden in 1917.
These local indexes will often index the bride under her father's surname, if different, thus enabling us to pick up widows. But not always!

Have you considered the option of using deceased online? I don't have any credits (I don't work for them either!) but they seem to be reasonable compared to some sites, going pay per view it might cost a couple of pounds for a scan of a burial register, and then perhaps for a grave register to see if that determines who else is buried with them?

It could give you an idea of how the land lies, and might reduce the chances of getting any wrong certificates?
John

[Peggy13]

I don't know about deceased online. Is that exactly what it's called? Lancashire BMD doesn't have a death for Annie Marsden in 1936.
Peggy

[jonwarrn]

Hi
They are not complete unfortunately. Salford is not even in the drop down list of "regions" in their death indexes! So they haven't done them yet (something to look forward to!)
You can get a pdf of the death though from the GRO.

Yes, that is right, it has been useful to us on here before
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
John

[Peggy13]

You are right - Annie Marsden who died 1936 is buried with John Edward Brown who died 1959. I would say that confirms their relationship.
Funnily enough, I have visited the site before as I had an account, much to my surprise. And get this, I had paid for Annie Marsden's burial before. Can't imagine why although it fits now.
So I guess next step is to get a PDF of the death if I can.
You are one clever guy.
Peggy

[jonwarrn]

Hi Peggy
That does sound very promising. Really pleased for you.
Hope you can confirm things.
Do let us know of any developments!
John

[sfir]

Interestingly, when George Harry Brown married Eliza Burgess in 1920, it was witnessed by Thomas Marsden and Florence Marsden

Eliza's mother was a Marsden; Tom and Florence were her cousins.
There were many George Marsdens in Eliza's family.

[Peggy13]

Were Tom and Florence cousins of Eliza or of Emily,  her mother?
Peggy

[mckha489]

Excellent work!  Looking forward to the marriage cert