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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 26 November 20 17:23 GMT (UK) »
I have now ordered the birth certificate for Robert Brown, born Sept 20, 1906 to see who the parents are, particularly mother. Is anyone able to find a marriage for a Robert Brown to an Amelia (as per will) to see the parent's names? If Robert born 1906, marriage possibly abt 1930.
thanks for any help.
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #73 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:15 GMT (UK) »
I now have the birth certificate for Robert Brown born Sept 20, 1906 and it seems to be the correct Robert, with mother Annie Brown, formerly Johnson, a laundress of 7 Hatherton Street. What puzzles me is that the address of Robert is 90 Eccles New Road, Salford, and the address of the informant, mother, Annie Brown is also 90 Eccles New Road. So why does it say Annie is a laundress of 7 Hatherton Street? Is that where she works?
I looked back at the 1901 census to see Annie's address in 1901 and it is 21 Hampson Street, North Salford. But I can't make out her place of birth. Can anyone help me with that? It is different than what is given in 1911 which is Coagh, Ireland.
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #74 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Ireland, Belfast


(It is Back Hampson Street)


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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #75 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Looking at 1901, I think 90 New Eccles street is the workhouse. So I would think that is where she had Robert and where she was at the time she registered the birth.  But normally at the other address.


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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #76 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Mckha489 for your continued help. What you say makes sense.
Peggy
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #77 on: Friday 27 November 20 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Mckha489, I did notice dob for George Harry Brown on the 1911. I prev. had Apr 19, 1895 in Manchester. I will have to pursue that, as best I can.
At the moment, I am looking for the marriage of Robert Brown to Florence Farmer aka Beeley in 1949.  A descendant of Annie's has Florence as wife for Robert whereas the will that I found for Robert with dod of Jan 10, 1979 has wife Amelia. What a difficult family to  research. Descendant also had dod for Robert as Dec 1972 in Salford but both 1972 and 1979 are missing on the online index for gro.gov.uk. I would love to find an obituary for Robert naming relatives. Whether Robert died in 1972 or 1979, he was the last sibling to die. Can't be sure if his marriage or his death is under Keen or Brown but I have been looking under Brown as per birth record.
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #78 on: Saturday 28 November 20 00:39 GMT (UK) »
Descendant also had dod for Robert as Dec 1972 in Salford but both 1972 and 1979 are missing on the online index for gro.gov.uk.
Peggy

Searched 4th quarter 1972 and 1st quarter 1973. on FreeBMD.  There are only four Robert Brown deathsin Lancashire and none at all in Salford. None of the four fit.

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #79 on: Saturday 28 November 20 14:19 GMT (UK) »
www.freebmd.org.uk has a

Robert Brown

DOB 20.09.1906

Death registered March Q 1979

Reg District Salford

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #80 on: Saturday 28 November 20 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Is the will you have of a Robert Brown whose address is in Preston? If yes that person did die in the March Q of 1979 registered Preston but their birthdate is 11 Dec 1902.

Your Robert would appear to be the one I have posted above this.

Have you contacted the tree owner on Ancestry with the Salford Robert marrying Florence? There are possible descendants there.