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Offline Peggy13

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #81 on: Saturday 28 November 20 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the will that I have is for a Robert who died in Preston on Jan 10, 1979. Now obvious that it is the wrong Robert, especially now that you have his dob as Dec 11, 1902. I just went back in and looked for a will for another Robert who died 1979 and checked all the way to 1982. Perhaps he didn't have a will or perhaps it was not probated until after 1982.
Yes, I have written to the owner of the Burgess-Brown tree and am awaiting a reply. The info about Florence Farmer is new to the tree.
Thank you Gibel for the dob of the Robert Brown who died in  Preston.
Peggy
Meggison-Durham, Northumberland and Canada
Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #82 on: Saturday 28 November 20 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Robert Brown

DOB 20.09.1906

Death registered March Q 1979

Reg District Salford

Could this be him?
Burial on deceased online free index
Robert Brown, 23 February 1979, Greater Manchester
Date of death 18 February

One other in grave.
Looks to me to be buried at Agecroft Cemetery.

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #83 on: Saturday 28 November 20 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Very much speculation...
A marriage in Sep 1933, Salford 8d 1111
Robert Brown
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Frances Thornhill
Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended (Lancashire BMD)

A birth reg
THORNHILL, FRANCES       
Mother's Maiden Surname: HUDSON 
GRO Reference: 1910  J Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 159

Free index to 1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1Q-ZZN

An army record for Alfred Thornhill, her father.
Says Frances born 24.4.1910

Pop that date into the 1939 Register free index
Frances Brown, b 1910, in Salford C.B., Lancashire
Address 50 Walmer Street, Bury

But is husband there? We are not allowed to do look ups in that!

Death
June qtr 1975 Salford 39 0926
Brown, Frances
d-o-b 24 April 1910

She seems to have been buried 30 May 1975, G Manchester
died 23 May
One other in grave
I think again it is at Agecroft.

Could the other person be her husband, Robert Brown?

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #84 on: Saturday 28 November 20 18:21 GMT (UK) »
More speculation!
A birth
Dec 1933 Salford 8d 417
Brown, Robert B.
mother Thornhill

Death in 2012 from the new GRO death index
BROWN, ROBERT  BERNARD     
Year of Birth: 1933 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/2012 in Salford  (011-1B)  Entry Number 507423915

Ancestry have their own England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019
Robert Bernard Brown
Birth Date 30 Nov 1933
Death Date 6 Oct 2012
Last Residence Salford, Lancashire.


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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #85 on: Saturday 28 November 20 18:32 GMT (UK) »
I am pretty confident that Robert was born Sept 20, 1906. Agecroft Cemetery seems a likely location. So will look into burial Feb 23, 1979 as well as other info provided. I don't think his wife was Frances Thornhill but am not ruling it out at this point. That birth of Robert Bernard Brown looks inviting, since Annie was with Robert Bernard Keen in 1911. Thanks for everyone's help.
Peggy
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Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #86 on: Saturday 28 November 20 18:38 GMT (UK) »
I thought it looked promising :(

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #87 on: Saturday 28 November 20 19:02 GMT (UK) »
By a strange coincidence, I had Robert's brother John Edward married to a Frances Thornhill in 1941.
But that marriage doesn't fit the rest of the family history. Perhaps the brothers wives got mixed up.
Peggy
Meggison-Durham, Northumberland and Canada
Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #88 on: Saturday 28 November 20 19:09 GMT (UK) »
Not forgetting
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Secondly, I now have the will of Robert Brown who died Jan 10, 1979, naming only his wife Amelia and his son Bryan Brown.

I can’t see one with a Farmer or Beeley mother

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #89 on: Saturday 28 November 20 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Now found

Births Dec 1931 
Brown    Bryan D    Farmer    Cannock    6b   671.    wrong area??