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Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« on: Monday 31 August 20 07:48 BST (UK) »
good day all.
Looking for help with birth and marriage info on my 3rd gt grandmother.
She was born about 1807 (from death certificate,no parents listed, only husband)
All censuses show she was born inTweedmouth/Berwick.

Her huband was James Hastie ( blacksmith) b1808  statuses state Tweedmouth also. Although dna has proven a link to james hastie born 1808 in edinburgh

She had 8 children to james
She also had an illegitimate child prior to meeting James Hastie.

For the life of me i cannot find birth or marriage records for Rachael/Rachel

I have tried all variations on name. Nothing. I have trawled through bishops transcripts , birth and baptisms records, marriage records but unable to find anything on  her prior to 1827.

I am Currently looking into a possible fisher woman connection on the east coast. As a lot of women followed the herring. From the north of scotland to the south of england, many of which married locals and settled.


Any help would be appreciated

Colin
Berwick upon Tweed -Swinney, Bruce, Hastie,Wood,Keen,Boston, Laidler/Laidlaw

Stirlingshire - Strang, liddell,Skelton,

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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:37 BST (UK) »
Is this the family in 1841

James   Hastie   30   
Rachael   Hastie   35   
Mary   Hastie      9   
Philip   Hastie   7   
William   Hastie   4   born   Durham
James   Hastie   1   born Durham

Are these the sons who appears with them on next census

HASTY, SAMUEL       Mothers maiden surname CLARK
GRO Reference: 1842  D Quarter in BERWICK UPON TWEED UNION  Volume 25  Page 10

HASTY, ALEXANDER       Mothers maiden surname CLARK
GRO Reference: 1847  Sept Quarter in BERWICK UPON TWEED UNION  Volume 25  Page 911
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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:40 BST (UK) »
The surname of the mother with children James thru Alexander have a mother's maiden name of Clark according to the index on the GRO site.

Philip was baptised Tweedmouth 11 May 1834 s/o James and Rachel Hasty, blacksmith, Tweedmouth

Janis
Co. Durham:  Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener, Lamb
Northumberland:  Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath
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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 September 20 22:06 BST (UK) »
Jane Clark illegitimate  daughter of Rachel Clark,Spinster
born in the Parish of Berwick Upon Tweed
Baptised St Bartholomew Tweedmouth
19th December 1824
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 September 20 14:03 BST (UK) »
Another child.
Robert DUMBLE 11 Nov 1827, St Bartholomew, Tweedmouth
Parents Alexander DUMBLE and Rachel CLARK
illegitimate son, father: Bachelor, mother: Spinster

In later Census Robert is in Scotland.

This appears to be him 1841 in Tweedmouth;
William DUMBLE   58 Fisherman
Deborah Dumble 60
William Dumble   19 Blacksmith Appr
Robert Dumble   14*****
All down as born Durham
With Grandparents???

On the same page is;
Thomason CLARK (62) 1779   
JANE Clark  (20) 1821***** (Racheals Daug?)

Trish :)

   
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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 September 20 12:48 BST (UK) »
Any thoughts on what has been found swinney  :-\
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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 September 20 13:35 BST (UK) »
Any thoughts on what has been found swinney  :-\

Rachael appears ro be a bit of a mystery.. no birth.. or born under a different name.. her death cert does not show any parentage.
I had all the information on the children and censuses.
Still cannot locate and marriage for her.
A brick wall which seems to be double skinned
Berwick upon Tweed -Swinney, Bruce, Hastie,Wood,Keen,Boston, Laidler/Laidlaw

Stirlingshire - Strang, liddell,Skelton,

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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 September 20 13:42 BST (UK) »
Another child.
Robert DUMBLE 11 Nov 1827, St Bartholomew, Tweedmouth
Parents Alexander DUMBLE and Rachel CLARK
illegitimate son, father: Bachelor, mother: Spinster

In later Census Robert is in Scotland.

This appears to be him 1841 in Tweedmouth;
William DUMBLE   58 Fisherman
Deborah Dumble 60
William Dumble   19 Blacksmith Appr
Robert Dumble   14*****
All down as born Durham
With Grandparents???

On the same page is;
Thomason CLARK (62) 1779   
JANE Clark  (20) 1821***** (Racheals Daug?)

Trish :)

This looks promising, have you discounted it
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Re: Rachael Hastie d.Feb 1875
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 September 20 15:25 BST (UK) »
Thomason clark appears in 1841,51 &61 census,
in 41 living in west end, tweedmouth with jane, but no relationship stated
in 51,61 she is living with Jane and her husband John Lowe , listed as mother in law, in foundry cottages, pudding lane tweedmouth,


Berwick upon Tweed -Swinney, Bruce, Hastie,Wood,Keen,Boston, Laidler/Laidlaw

Stirlingshire - Strang, liddell,Skelton,