Robert Gregg/Craig 3rd Great Grandfather

[Candidiasia Ibberrson]

I think that is a contented especially with the spelling of the surname. I am led to believe this is a Scottish connection

Death Cert for Ann Gregg, death 06 April 1899 Normanton Sprint, Ag3 70, Widow of Robert Gregg a Coal Miner
Cause or death Think it is wasting away
Informant David Foggart Son in Law Ellens husband

On the Marriage to Robert her father is listed as Robert Walker Occupation Miner

Marriage Certificate for my 2x Great Grandmother   Surname on MC is Graig   

Married 25 January 1883, in The Parish Church Handsworth, York. Married Ralph Holland    Agnes Gregg, Age 21, Spinster, Normanton Srpings, Sheffield,  Father Robert Graig (mispelt), coalminer    Witnesses: George Francis Dewsnap and Elizabeth Dewsnap. (Elizabeth is Ralphs Sister)

Candis

[ColC]

Is this the family I wonder?

Wath Upon Dearne,York baptisms parents George & Mary

Robert Gregg 3 Jun 1827, others, Amelia Greg 21 Nov 1819, Joseph Greg 11 May 1828

Then Benjamin Gregg Baptism 24/04/1836 Handsworth, Yorkshire.

Colin

[ColC]

1841 parish of Handsworth, Yorkshire.

Mary Gragg 40 Transcribed Ruth but is Rob’t Gragg 15, Charles Gragg 10, Benj Gragg 5
All born in the County

In 1851 they are still there Mary 53 a widow with Charles & Benjamin. All born Yorkshire

The entry before is Robert 25, Hannah 24 & Mary 1.Robert noted as born Pointon, Cheshire.

All the boys are coal miners

Colin

[Candidiasia Ibberrson]

Thank you much Colin

That does see to be the right family.  I wonder where they were coal miners and whether there is any history on the.

Thank you for your help

Candis

[ColC]

There were a large number of mines in what is now South Yorkshire, when they lived in Wath Upon Dearne, they were probably nearer to the mining areas, maybe less so when the moved to   Handsworth, Yorkshire.. Some information on the sites below, plenty more on line.

http://www.calmview.eu/SheffieldArchives/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=COAL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Yorkshire_Coalfield

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Lundhill_Colliery_Disaster

You mentioned earlier that you thought there was a Scottish connection, which given the name, depending which one it is, may be right. Do you have any specific information?

Colin

[lancsann]

1841 parish of Handsworth, Yorkshire.

Mary Gragg 40 Transcribed Ruth but is Rob’t Gragg 15, Charles Gragg 10, Benj Gragg 5
All born in the County

In 1851 they are still there Mary 53 a widow with Charles & Benjamin. All born Yorkshire

The entry before is Robert 25, Hannah 24 & Mary 1.Robert noted as born Pointon, Cheshire.

All the boys are coal miners

Colin

On the otherhand unless Mary was not registered there is no Mary b 1849-1851 with the mmn of Walker

Robert in general did not seem to know where he was born. On one census it just says Cheshire, on another it says Cheshire N K (not known)

[Candidiasia Ibberrson]

There were a large number of mines in what is now South Yorkshire, when they lived in Wath Upon Dearne, they were probably nearer to the mining areas, maybe less so when the moved to   Handsworth, Yorkshire.. Some information on the sites below, plenty more on line.

http://www.calmview.eu/SheffieldArchives/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=COAL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Yorkshire_Coalfield

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Lundhill_Colliery_Disaster

You mentioned earlier that you thought there was a Scottish connection, which given the name, depending which one it is, may be right. Do you have any specific information?

Colin

No just that family members think Craig is the right one.  I was kinda hoping that Ancestry DNA Scottish link was there.  Back to researching and trying to solve a tangled web.

Thanks

[ColC]

On the other hand unless Mary was not registered there is no Mary b 1849-1851 with the mmn of Walker

Unless she was registered elsewhere in the County.

GREGG, MARY       WALKER 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in OF RIPON  Volume 23  Page 601

Colin

[ColC]

If George was born in Scotland say between 1790 & 1800 there were the following possibilities, as an example.

Gregg, no George but 44 others in period.. Craig 1,285 including 22 George’s but of course the connection could have been earlier generations.

Good luck, Colin