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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 August 20 21:01 BST (UK) »
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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 August 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
KG

Its really sad sometimes seeing all the children who die at such young ages, with no chance of a life.

Ive got records of BMD from local churches near me and you see causes of death such as "Unnamed less than 12 hrs old, found in local reservoir",  "10 days, body found in garden" or the harbour  and these are in the 1920's.

Where I live we were a mining town and all the graves to children 10 years old who were killed

Annymore info would be great

But, I do thank you so much

Andi R

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 August 20 22:11 BST (UK) »
OOOO ERR!!

This has also got a child of Thomas and Isabella Rutherford he he was the brther of John Burns, who is a story all by himself with three wives, on son who won the DSM in WW1, was promoted to 2nd Lieut then was awarded the MC, and died of spanish flu in 1919, so that was a good find

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Just adding some more for completion:

Thomas Rutherford’s death at 51/2 months.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05648/4590015.pdf

John Burns Rutherford born 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01475/1601098.pdf
His death sadly at only 10 days
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05353/4491686.pdf

Thomas Rutherford buried in City Cemetery, Belfast
https://tinyurl.com/yyusl72n

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 August 20 06:28 BST (UK) »

From PRONI Wills Calendar website:
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Will abstracts:
Rutherford John Burns of 62 Oakland Avenue Belfast blacksmith died 18 February 1929 Probate Belfast 3 May to Jane Waugh Rutherford the widow. Effects £1781 12s. 3d.

Rutherford Jane Waugh of 62 Oakland Avenue Belfast widow died 6 October 1935 Probate Belfast 10 January to John Warwick Bailie draughtsman and George McAllan engineer. Effects £1316 2s. 10d

There’s the connection with the two young McAllan children buried in the same grave at Dundonald cemetery.

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Jane Born Belfast circa 1897
Agnes Born Belfast circa 1900  Now Agnes Burns 1899
Effie Born Belfast circa 1906 now Euphemia
Elizabeth Born circa 1910


Agnes was born on 8th February 1900.

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 August 20 19:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

Still looking into the names mentioned on the probate and the children in the graves

However, one of the things that came out of this was the brother of John Burns Rutherford,  Thomas who was over in Belfast for a number of years  with his wife Isabell Sparks Rutherford, there are a  few people I didn't know existed until you helped me find John.

I notice one of the last residences of Mary Elizabeth Rutherford, who born 14th of June 1903 sadly died in Sept 10903, was Bonchester Neills Hill, but I think its Mill, do you know if there was ever a textile mill of some form, because Rutherfords came from Bonchester Bridge in Scotland and Thomas was a woollen manufacturer and draper, there seems to be a flour mill at Neills Mill?

I wonder if my relative had a mill, and named it after his home of Bonchester

Andi R

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 August 20 19:41 BST (UK) »

Looking at her death record (Mary Elizabeth), I think the name of the house is Bonchester and it is in an area of Belfast known as Neills Hill. There is a street in east Belfast called Neills Hill Park.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05648/4590014.pdf
https://tinyurl.com/yxsbdvtw

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 August 20 19:49 BST (UK) »
I know one thing I've never known a family thats suffered so many infant mortalities

Could just of been a house called 'Bonchester'

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 August 20 19:53 BST (UK) »
It is an area in east Belfast close to the old Neills Hill station on the Belfast & Co Down Railway line.

Check out the PRONI Historical Maps Viewer to see the area. It's on the Edition 3 (1900 to 1907) map.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/search-proni-historical-maps-viewer

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Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 23 August 20 19:56 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo
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