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Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« on: Saturday 22 August 20 17:29 BST (UK) »
Ello

Ive lost a section of my family who were last seen on the 1911 census of (Victoria) Down Ireland

A john burns Rutherford born Scotland 1863 married to Jane also Scotland 1869
 he was a blacksmith @ Workman and Clark Shipbuilders in Belfast where he had four daughters:

Jane Born Belfast circa 1897
Agnes Born Belfast circa 1900
Effie Born Belfast circa 1906
Elizabeth Born circa 1910

According to my searches they were at Evelyn Avenue, Pottinger, Down, Ireland in 1901 census,and in 1911 Oakland Avenue, Victoria (part of), Down, Ireland, and thats all I have

Bit of a mystery why he worked in Belfast, all the children born Belfast, working Belfast but living in Pottinger, Down

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 August 20 18:11 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Andi R on Saturday 22 August 20 17:29 BST (UK)

Bit of a mystery why he worked in Belfast, all the children born Belfast, working Belfast but living in Pottinger, Down


No mystery - Pottinger is the Electoral Division in Belfast (Co Down side).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottinger_(District_Electoral_Area)

Here's the family in 1901 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Evelyn_Avenue/1220443/

....and in 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Oakland_Avenue/231385/

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 August 20 18:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Kiltaglassa

Thank you for the location of the district

Im trying to chase up what happened post census, marriages, deaths

I have just been looking up the company and the ships that got built by them

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 August 20 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

I now believe Effie is short for Euphemia, and believe she was "Euphemia Waugh Rutherford" born Jul - Sep 1905

Also that Agnes Rutherford, was called Agnes Burns Rutherford, the confusion here is that Agnes "Burns" had a cousin also called Agnes "Burns" Rutherford also born in the same area of Belfast just a month later ....... No consideration for future family history buffs ::)


Quote from: Andi R on Saturday 22 August 20 17:29 BST (UK)
Ello

Ive lost a section of my family who were last seen on the 1911 census of (Victoria) Down Ireland

A john burns Rutherford born Scotland 1863 married to Jane also Scotland 1869
 he was a blacksmith @ Workman and Clark Shipbuilders in Belfast where he had four daughters:  Anymore help appreciated

Jane Born Belfast circa 1897
Agnes Born Belfast circa 1900  Now Agnes Burns 1899
Effie Born Belfast circa 1906 now Euphemia
Elizabeth Born circa 1910

According to my searches they were at Evelyn Avenue, Pottinger, Down, Ireland in 1901 census,and in 1911 Oakland Avenue, Victoria (part of), Down, Ireland, and thats all I have

Bit of a mystery why he worked in Belfast, all the children born Belfast, working Belfast but living in Pottinger, Down

Andi
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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 August 20 19:04 BST (UK) »

John Burns Rutherford died in 1929. He's buried with his wife Jane (Jean) and their infant son in Dundonald cemetery.
https://tinyurl.com/yymumgd8

Here's the death notice. Belfast Telegraph - 19th February 1929

Rutherford February 18, 1929 (suddenly), at 62 Oakland Avenue, John Burns, beloved husband of Jean Rutherford. Funeral to-morrow (Wednesday), at 2-30, to Dundonald Cemetery.

KG


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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 August 20 19:10 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Andi R on Saturday 22 August 20 18:41 BST (UK)

I now believe Effie is short for Euphemia, and believe she was "Euphemia Waugh Rutherford" born Jul - Sep 1905


Euphemia Waugh born on 10th June 1905.   MMN is Waugh.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01776/1698498.pdf

KG

Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 August 20 19:16 BST (UK) »
Kiltaglassan

Thank you so much, I really appreciate this

Andi X

Quote from: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 22 August 20 19:04 BST (UK)

John Burns Rutherford died in 1929. He's buried with his wife Jane (Jean) and their infant son in Dundonald cemetery.
https://tinyurl.com/yymumgd8

Here's the death notice. Belfast Telegraph - 19th February 1929

Rutherford February 18, 1929 (suddenly), at 62 Oakland Avenue, John Burns, beloved husband of Jean Rutherford. Funeral to-morrow (Wednesday), at 2-30, to Dundonald Cemetery.

KG
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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 August 20 19:21 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Lost Rutherford's in Victoria part of Down
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 August 20 20:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Kiltaglassan

WOW, I really do thank you for this as I had no idea about Northern Irish or any Irish records, shame I didn't know this when I was over in Belfast a few year ago

I wonder how many relations I have in Belfast today
 ;) ;D

Andi R

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Quote from: Andi R on Saturday 22 August 20 17:29 BST (UK)

Jane Born Belfast circa 1897
Agnes Born Belfast circa 1900
Effie Born Belfast circa 1906
Elizabeth Born circa 1910


Here's some more, Andi

Agnes Burns born 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02011/1772531.pdf

Thomas born 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01872/1728900.pdf

Elizabeth born 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01595/1641318.pdf

Plus Joan Waugh born 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01424/1584681.pdf

Jane Weatherstone born 1897
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02142/1813470.pdf

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