Annie Fox

[louisa maud]

I found one in the workhouse showing mother Elizabeth with a child Annie, born 14/09/1898  but also showing "absconded" ad I assume child was left behind

I would have thought by 1898  most if not all babies were registered

Louisa Maud

[Foxhunter]

I also have a newspaper article from 1896 where Elizabeth and Edward are charged with child neglect after the older children were found abandoned in a wash house! Elizabeth is described as a drunk that spent her husbands wages on drink as soon as he earned it! They were both sent to prison but I’ve been unable to find a record of that.

[Foxhunter]

I found one in the workhouse showing mother Elizabeth with a child Annie, born 14/09/1898  but also showing "absconded" ad I assume child was left behind

I would have thought by 1898  most if not all babies were registered

Yes it’s strange , the gro were unable to locate a birth certificate, I have no confirmed trace of Annie after that until her marriage in 1919, Elizabeth appears on her own in the 1911 census.

[heywood]

I wondered if this was Annie in 1911? She is born Southwark which fits.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPP-9JF

[Foxhunter]

Yes I think it may be, I haven’t been able to find a definite link with the people she is there with so cannot be sure.

[louisa maud]

What happened to her siblings and parents?

LM

[Foxhunter]

LM
Edward died in 1900, he was living at his sisters address.
Elizabeth appears in 1911 census apart from all of the children, she died in 1914, her daughter Louisa registers the death.
I’ve had difficulty locating the children after the neglect incident.
Robert, appears to be in a children’s home in Cheshire in 1901.
I believe Florence and Joseph are be living with an aunt in 1901.
The first Annie dies a few months before my relative Annie is born, I’ve been unable to locate her in 1901.

[louisa maud]

What a sad family?

LM

[jonwarrn]

That baptism of Annie at St George the Martyr, 17 Sep 1898, was when she and her mother were still in the workhouse.
It's a P.B., private baptism, as are the other two that day, Edith Mary Stancliffe and William Charles Riseley.

From the workhouse register of births we can see that EM Stancliffe was born same day as Annie Fox, and WC Riseley the next day
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-X92G-X?i=938

Baptized at the workhouse?

GRO birth index, Dec qtr 1898, volume 1d, district St. Saviour Southwark
indexed on page 43 are
Stancliffe, Edith Mary
Risely, William Charles
Dray, Joseph William   
Western, John Charles

Presuming Joseph is the unnamed male Dray born 25 Sep in the workhouse register and JC Western is Weston in that, then perhaps the master of the workhouse registered all of them at the same time?
No names indexed for vol. 1d page 42 that quarter, so hopefully page 43 is the start of a new sub-district. Those births could have been registered 1st or 2nd October.

Or did the registrar come to the workhouse? Elizabeth and Annie Fox left on the 29 Sep, but I think the Stancliffes did as well!
Maybe there was a misunderstanding about the registration?