Seeking James Gamble, born in Ireland 1812-1820(ish)

[BallyaltikilliganG]

in case something helps
starting in 1588 listed in family trees in Genes Reunited see  https://www.GenesReunited.co.uk   
Josias      Gamble      Ireland. ...         treeholder   Stephen
Solomon   Gamble      County Fermanagh, Ir...   treeholder   Stephen
Josias      Gamble   1588   Unknown ...         treeholder   Christopher
Solomon   Gamble   1628   County Fermanagh, Ir...   treeholder   Christopher
John      Gamble   1755   Enniskillen, Fermana...   treeholder   Derek   
David      Gamble   1758   fermanagh ...         treeholder   Rachael
1723 Baptist   Gamble listed in family trees in genesrenited
https://www.GenesReunited.co.uk    ree/results/gamble/baptist?memberkey=0&yearofbirthrange=0
Baptist   Gamble   1723   Ireland. ...   treeholder   Stephen   
Baptist   Gamble   1723   ...      treeholder   Christopher   
Baptist   Gamble   1723   Ireland. ...   treeholder   Lillian

1796 Flax Growers of Ireland https://www.failteromhat.com/flax/fermanagh.php
Gamble             David              Derryvullan           Fermanagh
Gamble             Maurice            Rossorry                Fermanagh
Gamble             William          Derryvullan           Fermanagh

1834 Tithe-Applotment-Books http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/fermanagh/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-cleenish.php
Gamble, Baptist, Esq.-Townland: Mullygarry Year: 1834-Cleenish-Fermanagh
Gamble, John-Townland: Coolyermour Year: 1834-Cleenish-Fermanagh
Gamble, Mr. Townland: Maybawn Year: 1834-Cleenish-Fermanagh

if you search wikitree https://www.wikitree.com/ wikitree under  James Gamble  you have 204 entries, then make tour own search for Ireland as place of birth , you have 16 matches.  you are searching births between 1805 and 1821 the nearest is
James Gamble 1825 Magheralin, County Down, Ireland -   managed by Allan Stuart
 
ancestryireland .com has births you need to buy credits to see more detail the fathers name is listed in each entry
James   Gamble   1813   Arthur      Antrim   
James   Gamble   1816   David      Antrim   
James   Gamble   1817   Samuel   Antrim   
James   Gamble   1822   Andrew   Down   
James   Gamble   1826   James      Down   
also try emerald ancestors
good luck

[Buffnut453]

in case something helps
starting in 1588 listed in family trees in Genes Reunited see  https://www.GenesReunited.co.uk   
Josias      Gamble      Ireland. ...         treeholder   Stephen
Solomon   Gamble      County Fermanagh, Ir...   treeholder   Stephen
Josias      Gamble   1588   Unknown ...         treeholder   Christopher
Solomon   Gamble   1628   County Fermanagh, Ir...   treeholder   Christopher
John      Gamble   1755   Enniskillen, Fermana...   treeholder   Derek   
David      Gamble   1758   fermanagh ...         treeholder   Rachael
1723 Baptist   Gamble listed in family trees in genesrenited
https://www.GenesReunited.co.uk    ree/results/gamble/baptist?memberkey=0&yearofbirthrange=0
Baptist   Gamble   1723   Ireland. ...   treeholder   Stephen   
Baptist   Gamble   1723   ...      treeholder   Christopher   
Baptist   Gamble   1723   Ireland. ...   treeholder   Lillian

1796 Flax Growers of Ireland https://www.failteromhat.com/flax/fermanagh.php
Gamble             David              Derryvullan           Fermanagh
Gamble             Maurice            Rossorry                Fermanagh
Gamble             William          Derryvullan           Fermanagh

1834 Tithe-Applotment-Books http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/fermanagh/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-cleenish.php
Gamble, Baptist, Esq.-Townland: Mullygarry Year: 1834-Cleenish-Fermanagh
Gamble, John-Townland: Coolyermour Year: 1834-Cleenish-Fermanagh
Gamble, Mr. Townland: Maybawn Year: 1834-Cleenish-Fermanagh

if you search wikitree https://www.wikitree.com/ wikitree under  James Gamble  you have 204 entries, then make tour own search for Ireland as place of birth , you have 16 matches.  you are searching births between 1805 and 1821 the nearest is
James Gamble 1825 Magheralin, County Down, Ireland -   managed by Allan Stuart
 
ancestryireland .com has births you need to buy credits to see more detail the fathers name is listed in each entry
James   Gamble   1813   Arthur      Antrim   
James   Gamble   1816   David      Antrim   
James   Gamble   1817   Samuel   Antrim   
James   Gamble   1822   Andrew   Down   
James   Gamble   1826   James      Down   
also try emerald ancestors
good luck

Many thanks BallyaltikilliganG...that's certainly a lot of info to go through.

I'm taking an interest in Baptist Gamble who was buried in Old Rossorry Graveyard in 1839.  I'm guessing he's the Baptist Gamble Esq in Mullygarry, Cleenish, in 1834 per your list of records.  Looking at various online records related to him, it appears his father's name was Moses Gamble and he had an elder brother named Samuel. 

He's listed as having a son, John, born in 1791 but there's no record of his wife or of that first marriage.  He apparently married a second time to a Miss MacPherson in 1830. 

Clearly there are a lot of holes in the records, and he probably had more children.  However, he seems a likely candidate to be James Gamble's father.  Now to see if I can uncover any additional records that help build the picture.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

keep going Buffnut453
good luck Bally....G

[Buffnut453]

keep going Buffnut453
good luck Bally....G

Many thanks...now to see if I can locate any parish records.  Not holding my breath, though.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

PRONI has church guideto records downloadable here is an incomplete copy as a starter.
its missing mirvfiche numbers etc
C.I. Cleenish (Clogher diocese) [Earliest registers destroyed in Dublin]
Baptisms, 1886-1947; marriages, 1845-1934; burials,
1886-1922.
MIC1/224
Vestry minutes, 1823-; registers of vestrymen, 1886-;
preachers’ books, 1896-; Sustentation Fund account
book, 1893-.

R.C. Cleenish (Clogher diocese)
Baptisms, 1835-9 and 1859-81; marriages, 1866-81.
[See also under ENNISKILLEN as part of the parish
forms part of the Roman Catholic parish of Enniskillen]

C.I. Lisbellaw (Clogher diocese) [Earliest registers destroyed in Dublin]
Baptisms, 1877-; marriages, 1845-; burials, 1877-; vestry minutes, 1827-; registers of vestrymen, 18701930;
preachers’ books, 1889-.
In local custody

C.I. Mullaghdun (Clogher diocese) [Earliest registers destroyed in Dublin]
Baptisms, 1819-36 and 1878-99; marriages, 1819-34
and 1845-1921; burials, 1819-35 and 1878-1927. MIC1/245
Vestry minutes, 1871-; registers of vestrymen, 191834;
preachers’ books, 1905-.
In local custody

M. Letterbreen Enniskillen Circuit records may include baptisms, 1823-1953, and marriages, 1864-1906,quarterly meetings, 1877-93.
 for Letterbreen; circuit schedule book, 1866-80; minutes of quarterly meetings, 1877-98.
MIC1E/15
M. Lisbellaw [Primitive Wesleyan Methodists] Baptisms, 1872-8.
MIC1E/9
M. Lisbellaw [Wesleyan Methodists] Baptisms, 1823-78; marriages, 1866-70; circuit schedule book, 1866-80.
MIC1E/15
M. Lisbellaw (post 1878) Baptisms, 1879-1953; marriages, 1891-1937; circuit schedule book, 1880-93.
MIC1E/10, 15

P. Lisbellaw Baptisms, 1851-1984; marriages, 1846-1936.
MIC1P/284
MIC1

dontforget parish borders are obsolete if you can walk to church ine neighbouring parish th
good luck

[Buffnut453]

Resurrecting this old thread because I just stumbled across an interesting possible clue.  On a whim I googled Baptist Gamble and one results was this link:

https://www.dib.ie/biography/gamble-josias-or-josiah-christopher-a3417

It includes this text regarding Josias (or Josiah) Christopher Gamble:

In February 1804 he resigned from his congregation and spent some time in Belfast. A textile business in Dublin was owned by Baptist Gamble (probably a relative), and Josias seems to have moved to Dublin to establish a chemical manufactory in Meath St. about 1806, and in new premises in Lurgan St. from 1815; he produced chlorine-based bleaching powder, sulphuric acid, and also alum, used as a mordant in the textile industry.

The marriage record for my Great-Great Grandfather, James Gamble, lists the occupation of his father, Baptist Gamble, as a factory manager.  I started wondering if "my" Baptist Gamble was a manager at a textile factory. 

FindMyPast has a record set of 19th century directories from Ireland which lists a number of records for a Baptist Gamble in the early 1800s in the textile industry.  Records include:

• 1802 - Robert (perhaps mistaken entry for Baptist?) Gamble, Flax Dresser of 15 Francis Street in Dublin
• 1803 - Baptist Gamble, Flax Dresser of 15 Francis Street in Dublin
• 1804 - Baptist Gamble, Flax Dresser of 15 Francis Street in Dublin
• 1805 - Baptist Gamble, Flax and Cotton Manufacturer of 15 Francis Street in Dublin
• 1806 - Baptist Gamble, Flax and Cotton Manufacturer of 15 Francis Street in Dublin

Baptist Gamble disappears from the register in 1808 (there's no record for 1807).  Josiah Gamble appears in the register in 1806.  Perhaps Baptist started work in Josiah's chemical factory?

Interestingly, there are a number of other Gambles listed, including James (Stonecutter), Samuel (Linen Draper), and William (Merchant).  All these names are common to children of "my" James Gamble. 

This is all highly tenuous and still doesn't provide any provable family relationships.  However, it might be the starting clue to help overcome this blockage in my family tree. 

I'd welcome any ideas others may have to help me explore this possible clue.

[Buffnut453]

The business name of Samuel Gamble, linen draper, is listed as "Samuel and Son" of High Street, Dublin.  There's a Christening record for a Samuel Gamble, son of Samuel and Mary Gamble, who was born on 19 March 1772.  The family were Quakers, lived on High Street, Dublin, and the elder Samuel Gamble was a linen merchant. 

Now to see if this family is somehow connected either to Baptist Gamble or Josiah Gamble.

[felixquaxer]

From a listing of names entered in Gilbert's Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin that I have compiled there are references to Piers,Richard , Samuel, & Rev. Thomas   Gambles. If you would like the references I can supply them upon request

FelixQuaxer

[Buffnut453]

From a listing of names entered in Gilbert's Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin that I have compiled there are references to Piers,Richard , Samuel, & Rev. Thomas   Gambles. If you would like the references I can supply them upon request

FelixQuaxer

That would be splendid, please.  Looking at an old map of Dublin (circa 1837) shows Samuel Gamble & Son's premises on High Street, Dublin, must have been quite close to those of Baptist Gamble on Francis Street.  Equally, the chemical business that Josias Christopher Gamble established on Meath Street was also very close at hand, within a few hundred metres. 

The fact that Baptist Gamble and Samuel Gamble (& Son) were both involved in the fabric trade may be coincidental but it's more likely that they were related.  Frustratingly, I've been unable to find any suitable records to confirm a family connection between Samuel, Baptist and Josias Christopher.  Hopefully, other details may strengthen the likelihood of a family connection.