Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)

[foundblue]

Many thanks for the information and advice from you all but I think you are right I won't find the baptisms.  I will have to find other routes to Benjamin's line and evidence his father was the Quaker from the Oldham area or the Benjamin who married Martha Sykes.   I suspect that all Lees come from the Oldham area at some point (my Y DNA does some 25 generations ago with some surname changes along the way) because of the place name Lees.

Thanks again for your help.

[Gibel]

Thought I’d have a ferret around for your family I found the following siblings to your Benjamin born 1793 with a father Benjamin. All have a variation of Hey Linthwaite in the abode. The baptism are in the Almondbury registers and the Marsden registers but they took place at Marsden

Betty 18 Jan 1784 d Benjamin of Height Linthwaite

James 4 Aug 1785 s of Benjamin of Hey Linthwaite

John 23 Sept 1787 s of Benjamin of Linthwaite

Martha 7 Aug 1790 d of Benjamin Of Heighgate Linthwaite

Benjamin 21 Aug 1793 S of Benjamin of Heygate Linthwaite at Slaithwaite Chapel

Joseph 10 Aug 1795 Son of Ben of Hey Gate Linthwaite  at Slaithwaite Chapel

I’ve not yet found a marriage for Benjamin but did find this possible baptism for Benjamin Which looks very possible to me.

Marsden Register
18 May 1553
Benjamin s of James and Phoebe of Hey in Linthwaite

However just found

15 June 1793 Ben son of Ben Lees of Hey Linthwaite buried At Slathwaite Chapel

[Pennines]

Actually the township of Lees is within Oldham.

However people only tended to be given a place name as a surname, way, way back in the 13th Century when surnames were introduced.

So - if a chap called Thomas moved from Lees to another settlement he would be given the name Thomas a' Lees or similar - to differentiate him from the other Thomas's in that settlement.

There may be other places called Lees - but I'm from Lancashire so I know of that one and you have mentioned Oldham.

[foundblue]

Gibel - Many thanks for doing that you have just actually possibly destroyed my theory!   Still that's what I wanted to do either prove the Oldham Quaker theory or my Benjamin from Linthwaite theory.  I just liked my theory better.

You have found the same ones as I but I also have Samuel 1776, William 1778, Mary 1780, Thomas 1782, a Joseph 1785 (? typo).   I assume these are to a Benjamin who married a Martha Sykes 8 Jan 1776.    Some things there for me to check and compare place names with.   The last two Martha and Benjamin fit with naming after their parents.  So all good.

What I hadn't found, didn't look for infact because everything was fitting nicely, was a Benjamin son of Ben dying which would mean he couldn't be "my" Benjamin and therefore the tree with the Quaker Benjamin son of Benjamin and Esther Roberts was possibly the answer. 

Benjamin whoever he is would be my 4x great grandfather so I want to get to know the right one.

[foundblue]

Sorry Gibel I think the heats got to me today - I've just had a good look for that burial Ben of Ben 15th June 1793 but can't find it in the Marsden, Slaithwaite or Almondbury records.

Which chapel was it?

[Gibel]

It’s in Slaithwaite St James in the West Yorkshire collection on Ancestry

For a search put

Ben Lees died 1795 Slaithwaite

It’s the very last entry on the page.

I destroyed my own theory too and I’m sorry but I see I put 1793 on my post and it should be 1795, my apologies.

[Gibel]

To try and help can you post the name, date of birth etc of your ancestor who you are 100 percent sure is correct. I imagine it’ll be someone born post 1837 who you have their birth certificate.

[foundblue]

Post 1837 would be Walter Allen Lees born 9 Jul 1862.  He was the son of Ezra who was the son of Benjamin and Fanny Cotton.   Unfortunately Ezra just escaped the 1837 changes.  Realistically I am very confident about Benjamin and Fanny and as well as records such as Census and Christeneings etc I have a number of DNA matches that confirm the relationships.    They married 30 Jun 1817 Almondbury.  I can trace the Cotton family but Benjamin is my mystery.   There is another possibility that I wasn't too keen on till Benjamin of Hey died early in his life yesterday but it lacked any other evidence and I felt depended upon the location of Miry Lane.   That is a Benjamin son of John 3 March 1793 (from memory) but I am sure I found him in the census later in his life and therefore dismissed him.  I need to re do that research again.

[Gibel]

Having had a quick look I completely agree that Ezra belongs to Benjamin and Fanny, the family in South Crosland and as you say the sticking point is Benjamin the father.

I’m just wondering whether another Benjamin son of Benjamin of Heygate was born a couple of years later. I know I have a family that tried 3 times to have a daughter Ann.

 I’ll see if I can find Benjamin son of John.