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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 August 20 10:29 BST (UK) »
I had missed that first Benjamin and South Crosland fits much better with Honley.   But Fanny from Linthwaite would be more likely to meet Benjamin from Linthwaite (Slaithwaite Chapel).  The Fanny 1800 is a half cousin once removed to "my" Fanny as far as I have been able to tell.  I think she was from Netherend.
My Fanny was from Clough and baptised on the 1oth Nov 1979 but transcribed as Catton on the 11th Nov.
The Abel Hall Lees in Penistone is too young to be the son of Benjamin.

I would be very interested in anything in the Quaker Book about where births were registered in the district.

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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 06 August 20 12:47 BST (UK) »
I’ve found Heygate, it’s a farm above Linthwaite and on the road just west of Blackmoorfoot reservoir and about a mile and a half, it that, from South Crosland. Hopley would involve going down into the valley and up to Honley. I think the Benjamin christened in Honley is the one living in Honley in the 1841 census.

Clough where Fanny was born is about a mile from Heygate and the same distance from South Crosland.


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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 06 August 20 12:55 BST (UK) »
Oh well done Gibel on your geographic research. I never find that easy - I don't seem to 'get on' with maps!
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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 06 August 20 13:41 BST (UK) »
I love maps and fortunately had an OS map of the area and on the Huddersfield exposed site they had a very helpful map.

I’ve been ferreting around and it seems that around the South Crosland/Netherton/Linthwaite there was quite a strong early Wesleyan/Methodist presence. I wonder if the  family became involved in this and later reverted to the Church if England. Unfortunately there are no surviving records of these chapels for the time you want.


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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 06 August 20 13:54 BST (UK) »
That's great Gibel I will look at the 1841 census again to check that I had covered that.   Do you use the National Library of Scotland for maps or oldmaps?  I find the NLS easier to use and they have OS of the period.  https://maps.nls.uk

Do you know of any of the names of the chapels you refer to?  Or should I just ferret around the Huddersfield exposed?  I read a history of Honley on there and found it very useful, I seem to remember a history of Dissenters in Huddersfield too but wasn't thinking about this problem when I read that. 

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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 06 August 20 13:59 BST (UK) »
Just found The History and Topography of South Crosland, Armitage Bridge and Netherton (1938) by Philip Ahier   - I think I also found the chapel you were referring to.  They met in the Oddfellows Hall?

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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 06 August 20 22:06 BST (UK) »
I found about 3 in the area  ( not Armitage Bridge) and checked them all on the Non Conformist records list for West Yorkshire Archives and none had early records listed so presumably they have been lost and they didn’t send them to the Registrar General in 1837 as those would also have been listed.

It may have been for convenience on the part of the Lees family. The children I found all married in the C of E ( I didn’t look for them all) and some appear to be buried in the local C if E like their father.

I think you may have to accept that you won’t find baptisms but maybe concentrate on tracking them down and finding other descendants, you never know someone may have a family bible.

I’ve found the Quaker book but it refers to Wooldale, High Flatts and Midhope. The Quakers kept good records and they are available online. I will have a read through the book over the weekend.

I like NLS maps too but I used Huddersfield Exposed website to find Heygate and my 1987 1:50,000 OS map Sheffield and Huddersfield to get an overview of the area. It’s extremely battered from having spent a lot of time in my rucksack with my Dark Peak 1:25,000 maps from my Peak Park Ranger days

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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 06 August 20 22:18 BST (UK) »
On nls if you find Black Moor Foot Reservoir and go left ( east) along the lane on top of the reservoir wall you will see Hey Gate and it’s still there today.

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Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« Reply #26 on: Friday 07 August 20 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

I will try & clear up what was in each parish but it could just confuse you a little.
South Crosland & Netherton was in the Almondbury Parish and had it's own chapel. Slathwaite, Linthwaite & Marsden are in both the Huddersfield & Almondbury Parishes & had their own chapel, so depending on which side of the valley they lived would depend on which parish they where in. Crosland Moor & Lockwood was in the Huddersfield Parish. Wooldale was in Kirkburton Parish.
It is complicated you can have people living a couple of yards from each other who would be in different parishes & it was then further complicated by the Luddite movement.

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