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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 09:27 BST (UK) »
Jean Jacques Francois Espié and his wife Josephine Formose de Fronsac gave birth to a child called George Henri Dominique on the 29 th of dec 1901 in Cairo Egypt  ( who married in France in 1936)

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 10:33 BST (UK) »
Laurence Marie Henriette Espie born 3 December 1897 Constantine, Algeria
http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/osd.php?territoire=ALGERIE&acte=1321959

parents : Jean Jacques Francois Espie, 31 years old, merchant  and ‘mère inconue’ ?
The child was born in her father’s house, but the father doesn’t know the mother ?
I'm a little confused

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GUEDJ ANNA SUZANNE ADELINE
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BINETTI ADOLPHE LEON
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ESPIE LAURENCE MARIE HENRIETTE
Constantine (Constantine, Algeria)
you can view the hand written record on here - I may have read these wrong - but they all seem to say - father unknown - need someone a bit more experienced than me to summarise it

https://en.geneanet.org/archives/registres/view/330615/82?idcollection=330615&legacy_script=%2Farchives%2Fregistres%2Fview%2Findex.php&page=82
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 12:09 BST (UK) »
Well garstonite the link you give and the link in the quotation show the same thing : Laurence Espie ´s birth certificate which clearly says father JJF Espie and mother unknown. The other births certs of the page don't all say "father unknown ".

It is common sense to understand that the mother who gave birth to Laurence was not unknown at all, but JJF Espié said she was unkown and he was the father . Laurence  was then legaly his child but had no legal link with her biological mother .

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 12:26 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has several military records for a Reginald Frank Roll, born Lowestoft. His service record under column headed "Place" mentions "Gallipoli, Mustapha, El Kulisi? and Kashgai?" (Persia/Iran?) - not easy to read.
A second record mentions "Gallipoli, Egypt and Palestine"
 


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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 13:59 BST (UK) »
http://www.archives13.fr/ark:/40700/vta045407cc8d6c3d0a/daoloc/0#id:802227018?gallery=true&center=1012.240,-2114.577&zoom=12&rotation=0.000&brightness=100.00&contrast=100.00
George Henri Dominique 's" fiche matricule"  : accomplished his military service in Beyrouth (1921/22), then went back  home to Cairo. In 1939  he was called again in the army , then in 1940 ( 31st july) went to AUCH (Gers département ) in the castle of Bonnefonds.

28 july 1939 lived in London 177 regent Street Mitre House Room 22, 21 may 1955 lived in Paris 61 rue Ramey 18 th arrondissement

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 19:34 BST (UK) »
Wow! Thanks so much for this! I never expected anyone to find out anything for me!

This is wonderful! I am guessing that is the child that died.

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 20:08 BST (UK) »
George Henri Dominique is not the child who died , he became a man , married in 1935 in Saint Denis ( unfortunatly the marriage certificates  aren't on line in st Denis ( seine saint denis departement) for 1935.)

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 20:22 BST (UK) »
Yeah I meant Yvon must be the child that died in Cairo. His mother must have died first and the family got it wrong that Reginald brought him back to the U.K. Reginald sailed back to the U.K. in 1926 alone.

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Re: Looking for a French relative born in 1897
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 July 20 07:38 BST (UK) »
My apologies , I misunderstood.