Henry C. Hamblin

[Calpe 1704]

Yes thanks for that

[Calpe 1704]

Hi again & thank you all for your continued interest. Appologies, very rusty navigating quote.

I will remain  "lurking" with great interst . Really do apriciate all of this.

Replying to jonw65 #151 post. Re. Henry Hamblin Beale younger sister Maria BC may help.

Ordered her death cert too.

Please find “Maria’s Hamblin” birth certificate, “Maria Hamblen Beale” death cert details,  from GRO image.

BIRTH:
Where were born: 10 March 1874, 2 Manchester St.
Name if any:             Maria Hamblen.
Sex:                            Girl.
Name father:            Henry Hamblen.
Name mother:          Maria Beale.
Rank prof father.      Merchant  Clerk.

Signature, Description Res informant:
H. Hamblen, Occupier, 2 Manchester Street, Pancras.

When Reg.   18 April 1874   
- - - - - - - - - - — - - - - -

DEATH:
Where when died:  28 Aug 1875, 13 Gt Ormond yard
Name surname:     Maria Hamblen Beale
Sex:                         Female
Age:                         1 year & 6 months
Rank & prof:            Daughter of Maria Beal a Domestic Servant.
Cause:                     Meningitis
Informant:   Maria Beale, mother present at death, 13, Gt Ormond Yard, Queen Square.

Richmond Parka, thank you for all that information. Into F.T.Maker it goes.
So we see the surname is being spelt HamBLEN

[Calpe 1704]

[quote author=jonw65
Hi RP
Welcome back!
Great info, well done. I think that clinches it, because the probate record for Jacob Henry said

Jacob Henry Hamblen
Formerly of 16 Albion Villas, Albion Road, Dalston, Middlesex, Merchant
Late of 2 Manchester Street, Grays Inn Lane, Merchant's clerk
Died 16 August at 2 Manchester Street

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Can i ask again who is this Jacob Henry Hamblen?
Birth date is any?

[jonwarrn]

Baptism at Falmouth, Cornwall, 6 February 1828
Jacob Henry
Son of Jacob + Elizabeth Hamblen
Abode Falmouth
Father a Chandler
Born 19 Nov 1827
Image of BT on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93K-K9CB-C

Marriage, 25 March 1858, Christ Church Highbury (Islington)
Jacob Henry Hamblen, Bachelor, Merchant, father Jacob Hamblen, Chandler
+
Julia Hawkins, Spinster, father Matthew Hawkins, Gentleman
Both of full age, and residence for both 11 Albert Terrace
By Licence

Death
Sep 1874 Pancras 1b 42
Hamblen, Jacob Henry   
Age 46   

For death date see the probate record.

Burial indexed for Jacob Henry Hamblen, 19 August 1874, authority Camden (not sure which cemetery)
This is on deceased online, via the link from ancestry (Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014)
But when I search on DO itself for Jacob I get no results!

[hanes teulu]

London Evening Standard, 3 Sep1874
DEATHS
Hamblen - Aug 10, of apoplexy, Jacob Henry Hamblen, in his 47th year.

[Richmond Parka]

It probably won't help, though we can hope, but Jacob Henry did leave a will. With wife Julia the executor. We don't know when it was written of course. For £1.50 it wouldn't do any harm to have it?

 I have applied for this will suggested, thank you for nudge.
Applied for both  1874/5 years.
There are conflicting years of death. Within the black image suggested results, all his death/probate details can be seen , but year says 1874 in text.
Though  I safely assume 1875 is correct.
 We'll see..

I find the eldest Collin's daughter Elizabeth birth a bit puzzling, b. about 1875, as jonw65 previously pointed out, messes things up a bit in that nut cracking #69 post. Obvious  assumption is  Samuel Collins fathered child before their 1877 wedding. The end.

(Joseph) Henry Hamblen’s  death year is 1875.
Elizabeth was born about 1875.

Nagging small doubt, Elizabeth Collins could be my Grandfather Henry Hamblen’s (Hamblin)  b.1872  full sister?

I have typically failed  to find her GRO entry when not  simple.
My motive to see this certificate, any GRO pointers greatly  appreciated.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I think Elizabeth Collins probably married Thomas Edward Manderson at Christ Church Southwark, 4 August 1895.
She said she was 19.
Father Samuel Collins, Postman.

In 1891 Samuel was a Parcel Post Driver.
The Mandersons are in Holborn in 1901. Elizabeth is E Manderson, 24, born Holborn.
In 1939, in St. Pancras, she might say she was born 29 Oct 1878 (the year can't be right)

Good luck with the will, let us know how you get on.

[Richmond Parka]

Thanks jonw65, really helpful. I drew an almost immediate  blank  with 1875 Will application .
Big silence re. 1874 application so far. Hopefully get a response  this week as going away.

 If another blank drawn , will request a second look at this 1874 one , via their (microfilm?) typed image clearly stating 1974 & potential culprit towards past error, in that all evidence points to 1875 death.

[janan]

Thanks jonw65, really helpful. I drew an almost immediate  blank  with 1875 Will application .
Big silence re. 1874 application so far. Hopefully get a response  this week as going away.

 If another blank drawn , will request a second look at this 1874 one , via their (microfilm?) typed image clearly stating 1974 & potential culprit towards past error, in that all evidence points to 1875 death.

Hi RP

Where did you get 1875 from?

This is the BMD index details for his death

Jacob Henry Hamblen 46 died Sep qtr 1874 Pancras District Vol 1b Pg 42

Also

London Evening Standard, 3 Sep1874
DEATHS
Hamblen - Aug 10, of apoplexy, Jacob Henry Hamblen, in his 47th year.

Therefore the 1874 probate record should be correct

Jan