Henry C. Hamblin

[jonwarrn]

New GRO birth index, just the once
HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER     
Mother's Maiden Surname:  —
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596

So is there going to be a father named on this birth registration

Right, I ordered it for £2.50.
This is what it says
When/Where Born
Nineteenth December 1868
13 Great Ormond Yard

Name
Henry Hambler

Sex
Boy

Name/Surname Father
Henry Hambler

Name (maiden surname) Mother
Maria Beale

Rank/Profession Father
Wine Merchant

Name/Residence Informant
M Beale
Mother
13 Great Ormond Yard Queen Square

When Registered
Twenty eighth January 1869

Registrar
John Boyden Goodhugh

[jonwarrn]

So Mr Hamblen is finally revealed?
Albeit as Hambler!

Henry Hambler (lets assume is Hamblen)
Wine Merchant

Don't forget that this earlier Henry, born 19 Dec 1868, died the following year.

[Calpe 1704]

There seem to be three Hamblen Beale births (if we include the first one indexed Hambler in 1869)
We don't know that the same man was the father of all three children.
Only that Maria used the surname Hamblen when she married.

jonw65, you've open up all the 'hidden' paths that i wasn't aware of!
Maria Beale married a Hamblen?

[jonwarrn]

Hi
No, I don't think that Maria married a Hamblen.
But she must have been calling herself Hamblen, according to the marriage register.
Presumably he was the man who had fathered her children (one or two or all three)
Can he now be found?
Jon

[jonwarrn]

Here's who I think he is
He died in 1874
Sep 1874 Pancras 1b 42
Hamblen, Jacob Henry   
Age 46   

I can see him in 1861 in Hackney.
Jacob H Hamblen
Age 33, born Falmouth.
Married to Julia, 23
Wine Merchant

[Calpe 1704]

The digital image of the Birth Certificate shows: -
Born - 01/06/1872
Name - Henry Hamblem
Mother - Maria Beale, Manchester Street, Pancras
Father - Blank.

Another strange thing is that after Maria married Samuel Collins the birth registrations of the children have her maiden surname as Hamblen.
And of course she married as Maria Hamblen, spinster, father William Beale!

It would be wonderful, but I fear there isn't one.
Maria's parents were William Beale and Elmira Parker (she is with them in St. Pancras in 1851, age 1)
But I can't see a marriage for William and Elmira either

Apologies, but something has slipped here i think.

Maria Beale was Henry Hamblen (Beale)'s mother.
The other children will be the ones you previously named, all Beale's?
So if Maria married a Samuel Collins, how was it possible that she kept the names of those 3 children as Hamblen's?

Thank you for the name of Maria Beale's mother - Elmira Parker.
Is there/are documents i can obtain from the G.R.O. or another source?

With thanks
 

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Well we now have one of the other children's birth details. So I am looking into Mr Hamblen the wine merchant. Possibly the father of your Henry born 1872, as well as the one born in 1868?

Jacob left a will
Probate Calendar, 1874
16 November
Jacob Henry Hamblen
Formerly of 16 Albion Villas, Albion Road, Dalston, Middlesex, Merchant
Late of 2 Manchester Street, Grays Inn Lane, Merchant's clerk
Died 16 August at 2 Manchester Street
Proved at the Principal Registry by Julia Hamblen of 14 Gloucester Road Regent's Park, Widow the Relict, the sole Executrix

[jonwarrn]

The digital image of the Birth Certificate shows: -
Mother - Maria Beale, Manchester Street, Pancras

Jacob Henry Hamblen died at 2 Manchester Street.
His widow Julia has a different address on the probate record. She may have simply moved, or were they no longer living together? No idea.

Does your birth reg give a specific number in Manchester Street?

[Calpe 1704]

Hi
No, I don't think that Maria married a Hamblen.
But she must have been calling herself Hamblen, according to the marriage register.
Presumably he was the man who had fathered her children (one or two or all three)
Can he now be found?
Jon

Confusing. As mentioned up to now there is a William Beale & Elmira Parker.
Elmira's children would of course be Parker's or Beale's if she married or 'declared' them as Beale's.
From where did Maria Beale get the name of Hamblen, there doesn't appear to be any connections to a Hamblen?
The father you mentioned would be whose partner/husband?