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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #72 on: Saturday 12 December 20 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Seems a good time  summarise what's been gathered confirmed re.
the very difficult Hamblin family.  having been fortunate enough to stumble
across Calpe's thread only months ago not even knowing my Grandparents first names.

Beatrice Lilian Turner, 1872 Luton D Hamblin. Staines  1944
Henry Hamblin, ???? St Pancras D Wandsworth 1948
 (Cyril middle name appears his nonsense)

Hamblin’s 12 Children.
Violet Mabel Ellen Turner, Pancras   1891 - D. Clare. Hammersmith 1963.
Henry George,  Fulham   1896 - D. (GRO Typo Herny) Surrey Northern 1966. 
Horace, Fulham, 1897 - D. Kingston upon Thames 1991. 
Leonard, Fulham,  (GRO Typo Lionard) 1899 -  D. MOD France 1916.
Harold, Kensington. . 1901 - D. Bodmin 1966.
Charles Cyril, Kensington,  1902 - D. Kensington 1903.
George Albert Kensington, 1904 - D Brentford 1947.
Alfred William Kensington, 1908 - D. Uxbridge 1942.
Beatrice,Kensington, 1910 -   D. Osborne. Bridge 1958.
Ellen, Fulham 1912 -   ………… D. Smith. Ealing 1995.
Walter, Hammersmith, 1914 - D. Surrey Northern 1978.
Norah, Hammersmith, 1916 -  D. Crowther. Ealing 1987

I am not experienced enough to judge, I came across the attached index fillet.
What are the chances in the event of non violent death of  2 elderly brothers Henry George & Harold entered next to each other in 1966 death index. These are all checked out.

Many thanks


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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 13 December 20 10:08 GMT (UK) »

To me looks like a classic. He ran away to sea.

ADM 188/205/145174   
Description:   
Name   Hamblin, Harry
Official Number:   145174
Place of Birth:   Saint Pancras, Middlesex
Date of Birth:   16 December 1872

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6670947

His service record signed up 16 Dec. 12yrs in 1891. pensioned in 1912.
Rejoined senior service for WW1, finally demob. 1919.
Looks like he signed up on his 17th Birthday & fibbed about his age.

Details from Harry's birth cert. Fire up the shredder.

1874 BIRTHS District of : Kentish Town,  County: Middlesex
When where born: 16/12/1873 - 3, Ingestre Rd, Name: Harry,Sex: BOY
Name father: Henry William Hamblin
Name/ MN Mother Elizabeth Hamblin, Formerly Stenhouse. Prof. Father Baker

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The WW1 diaries are the definite jewel there.

So it seems that this Harry Hamblin, son of Henry & Elizabeth isn't the one who 'married' Beatrice Turner & is found on 1901 & 1911 census.

On 1939 Register there is a Harry Hamblin/Hamblyn date of birth 16 Dec 1872 single, OAP living at 20 Mountview Trerrace, Port Talbot.... & died Dec 1959 age 86 in Glamorgan RD. 
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Clement - Croydon
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Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #74 on: Monday 14 December 20 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Just a brief mention that all the information that has been placed on this thread is greatly appreciated, sadly, other commitments have cropped up, but i'll be back, thank you kindly.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #75 on: Monday 14 December 20 17:24 GMT (UK) »
I have a copy of the father Henry William Hamblin's Will, dated 26 October 1926 probate 1st Mar 1927, he left  his entire Estate £137 to exeutar Emily Osbourne 28 Somerset Rd Tottenham.
His address on Will is 70 Clinton Rd  Harringay Middx. Retired Railway servant.
Possibly daughter Emily Maude born 1882 St Pancras? She is informant, they are both found  living at same address's  on his death cert.

Thought I'd tidy up this loose end although we now know this may not be the Henry/Harry Hamblin father of the HH who "married" Beatrice Turner....

About executor & informant Emily Osbourne, she is not daughter Emily Maude...
At 28 Somerset Road Tottenham as per the London Electoral Rolls from 1928 onwards is Emily May Osborne along with Frederick William Osborn, initially I though it was her husband but she was a widow on the Probate entry, so deduced it may be her son. The next year 1929 we also get Winifred May Osborn, deduced this to be her daughter just reached age 21 perhaps. Looking at birth indexes found these children, Frederick Mar 1901 & Winifred June 1903, in Islington RD. From the GRO the mother's maiden name was Wattam. Found marriage index in west Ham RD in June 1893 of Frederick Robert Osborne to Emily May Wattam and also other Osborne/Wattam children. Frederick died 9 Apr 1918 age 47, his probate says address was Sudeley Stables, Dalmeney Road, Tuffnell Park, proceeds to widow Emily Osborne. .       
 
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Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #76 on: Tuesday 27 June 23 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hello again, i thought i'd give this thread & posts another shot to try and attempt to dig a bit deeper hoping to find a bit more information with the help of all of you.
Firstly and mainly about Henry.

We know that his wife was Beatrice Lilian Turner.

I would prefer to keep future posts only about Henry C. Hamblin.

It doesn't matter how long the tunnel may be, just hope to see a clear light at the end.
Thank you.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 27 June 23 21:21 BST (UK) »
Has this person ever been mentioned? :-\

Have you thought about/investigated anything in Reply #69?

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 27 June 23 22:03 BST (UK) »
A birth in Pancras
Sep 1872 1b 61
Beale, Henry Hamblen
mother's maiden surname

For what it's worth Henry's d-o-b in the 1939 Register was 1 June 1872
Age 75 on death in June qtr 1948
Age 76 on burial, 15 May 1948

Free index to 1921 census says
Henry Hamblin, born 1869, London, London

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 27 June 23 22:18 BST (UK) »
There was another one a couple of years later, indexed twice by the GRO
June 1874 Pancras 1b 60
Beale, Maria Hamblen
Hamblen, Maria Hamblen

So perhaps illegitimate again, with father named?
new GRO index will only have one indexing, under the father's name
June 1874 Pancras 1b 60
Hamblen, Maria Hamblen
mother's maiden surname Beale

There might have been an earlier one?
Birth indexed twice on old GRO index
March 1869 Holborn 1b 596
Beale, Henry Hambler
Hambler, Henry Hambler

New GRO birth index, just the once
HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER     
Mother's Maiden Surname: 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596

Death under Beale
Sep 1869 Holborn 1b 407
Beale, Henry Hambler
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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 27 June 23 22:20 BST (UK) »
Apologies, I didn't expected such a rapid reply.
I must be honest & say that I need to check all the posts to clarify what's what.
Greatly appreciated.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain