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« Reply #90 on: Monday 03 July 23 15:28 BST (UK) »
;D John, that is the trouble ploughing through page after page on another thread is not my idea of fun, but will concentrate on elusive Henry C Hamblin b c 1873 or 1869 St Pancras, were the deaths of both him and Beatrice L found?
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Did George Henry Turner marry a Jane later?

03-07-2023
Elusive he still is.
Yes the deaths of them were found thanks, Richmond Parka obtained Henry Cyril Hamblin's, 11 May 1948.
The wife's date was 27 Feb 1944.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #91 on: Monday 03 July 23 15:38 BST (UK) »

George Henry certainly lived with a Jane but I haven't found a marriage. Emma Ellen was still alive so maybe he didn't want to commit bigamy.
The trouble is the original Hamblin thread which Calpe started to look for Mary Clare nee Hamblin, exploded into other areas so there is a lot on there.
I don't know if deaths for Henry and Beatrice Hamblin have been found.
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03-07-2023
Just posted in reply #91
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #92 on: Monday 03 July 23 15:40 BST (UK) »
Likely death
Staines, Middlesex January 1944
Beatrice L Hamblin b abt 1873
There is a death in Wandsworth, 1948
Henry Hamlin Born abt 1873
I think I offered that for some reason on the other thread.

03-07-2023
Plz see reply #91
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #93 on: Monday 03 July 23 15:43 BST (UK) »
Henry is alive in 1939, is he not?
With an alleged date of birth, that has not been mentioned here?
I promise that I am not claiming that the 1939 Register in any way resembles a census! ;D
Am in enough trouble with that tonight!
Electoral registers?
John

03-07-2023
Death of Henry Cyril Hamblin 11 May 1948.
Birth years have only been seen as about 1869 - 1873.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain


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Henry Cyril Hamblin
« Reply #94 on: Monday 03 July 23 16:14 BST (UK) »
Staines, Middlesex January 1944
Beatrice L Hamblin b abt 1873
There is a death in Wandsworth, 1948
Henry Hamlin Born abt 1873
I think I offered that for some reason on the other thread.
Which other thread?
Register of graves, Havelock Cemetery  (or Havelock Norwood?)
Interred together there are
Beatrice Lillian Hamblin, buried 4 March 1944, age 71
Henry Hamblin, buried 15 May 1948, age 76
Grave 52, Section C (B)
Or something like that!
Image is on ancestry.

03-07-2023
That would be Henry Hamblin, Born abt 1873
Havelock Cemetery, Southall.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #95 on: Monday 03 July 23 16:39 BST (UK) »
So with his age 76 at burial in May 1948 although GRO death index has age 75, plus him being age 74 in the newspaper report of Dec 1945, plus his birth date on 1939 register being 1 June 1872  (if it is right that is?) this all tallies with his age being 28 of 1901 census - therefore it is wrongly stated as 42 on 1911 census. So is the Harry Hamlin age 23 found on 1891 census him ?
So we still cannot find his birth index in 1871 (+/- 1 yr) perhaps or find him on 1881 census
Cheers John

03-07-2023
Why is everything a money spinner?
You have to have subscription for this to see....A
Then you need subscription for....B
Not forgetting subscription for C too.
There appears no practical (non-subscription) way to see any Census
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: Henry Cyril Hamblin
« Reply #96 on: Monday 03 July 23 17:44 BST (UK) »

03-07-2023
Why is everything a money spinner?
You have to have subscription for this to see....A
Then you need subscription for....B
Not forgetting subscription for C too.
There appears no practical (non-subscription) way to see any Census
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Family Search have the census transcriptions - no charge.  FreeBMD have BMD records for England and Wales - no charge.

Don't know much about Family Search BUT I do know that FreeBMD relies totally on transcribers who do the work for NOTHING.  :-X

Plus, if you live in England I believe that you can access a lot of subscription sites at your Library - no charge.  :-X
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
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Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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« Reply #97 on: Monday 03 July 23 18:35 BST (UK) »
The parents ... Henry William Hamblin married Elizabeth Stenhouse at St.George Hanover Square in Dec 1865.
On 1871 census they were living at 5or7 Little George street, Chelsea with 3 children, he was age 27 a Baker.
On 1881 census they are at 6 Spencer Road St.Pancras with 4 children (1 from 1871 & 3 more including Harry age 7, one from 1871 is Henry George born 1870 & not with them in 1881, so assumed died).
Henry William is age 36 born Newbury, Berks 7 a Railway Signalman. Ancestry has Railway Employment record for him, he started at St.Pancras in 1875 age 32 as a pointsman.
Baptism records for 5 of the children show him as a pointsman, their address 6 Fleet Mews, 4 were done at St.Saviours Middx on 15 Apr 1878, showing birth dates. Harry is born on 16 Dec 1873 which matches your birth certificate. 

03-07-2023
Trying to understand this post...
The parents... Henry William Hamblin who married an Elizabeth Stenhouse are parents of ?
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #98 on: Monday 03 July 23 18:52 BST (UK) »
I ordered Harry Hamblin, 1874 Qtr. Mar.  St Pancras.  Vol 01B, Pg 152, Birth Cert.
That middle name Cyril apears only once  as far as I know, on my mothers marrige cert. My remote hope was that it apears on the St Pancras "Harry" Hamblin.
In the probable absence of Henry Cyril Hamblin- Beatrice Lilian Turner wedding cert ever existing.
Still awaiting my uncle "Harry" Henry George Hamblins pdf birth cert. eldest son of Henry & Beatrice.

Superintendent Registrar’s District: St Pancras
Reg district : Kentish Town.
1874 BIRTHS District of : Kentish Town,  County: Middlesex
When where born: 16/12/1873 - 3, Ingestre Rd, Name: Harry,Sex: BOY
Name father: Henry William Hamblin
Name/ MN Mother Elizabeth Hamblin, Formerly Stenhouse. Prof. Father Baker
Informant H W Hamblin, fafther 3, Ingestre Rd, Brecknock Rd. (Both rd's Check out)
Registered 27/01/1874 Signed off by Reg-,  Bapt: Blank.
All information crown copyright property.


03-07-2023
Please correct me, but is this text (italic) taken from Henry Cyril Hamblin's Birth Certificate?
It appears that if a marriage took place is could have been between 1901 & 1906
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain