Henry C. Hamblin

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jonw65, thank you kindly for your replies.

Have you thought about/investigated anything in Reply #69?
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I must apologies to all the readers for having jumped the gun.
I must satisfy myself that no bones have left unturned.
As i have mentioned i will check all the posts in this thread 'Henry C. Hamblin' and then raise any points.

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Was this his birth?
June qtr 1873
St Saviour Registration District     vol 1d, page 119
Hamblin, Henry Thomas
(From FreeBMD)
HAMBLIN, HENRY  THOMAS      (Mother's Maiden Name:) CLARK     
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 119
(From GRO.gov.uk)

03-07-2023
I don't think this is the same person.

I have his name as Henry Cyril Hamblin.

Born about 1873, St. Pancras, London
Deceased 11 May 1948.
1901 Census, his age was 28, est. birth 1873, London Hackney Carriage Driver.
1911 Census, age 42,est. birth 1869.

Death Certificate (thanks Richmond Parka): -
died Tooting Bec Hospital, age 75, lived Staines Road, Hounslow, Taxi Cab Driver.

I am trying to find his exact birth details.

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Hi so he is the Henry Hamblin b c 1873 St Pancras with wife Beatrice and children on 1901 RG13/31/150/22
Keyboard86
PS have you not got their marriage certificate?
1911 says he was born in 1869?

03-07-2023
Well i know that Henry C. Hamblin's wife was Beatrice Lillian Turner
I have no further details of their marriage

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1891 Census
Harry Hamblin, boarder, single, age 23, Hackney Carriage Driver, born St Pancras

03-07-2023
Just checked https://www.freecen.org.uk/  for 1891
Found a Henry Hamblin.
County: London (City)
District: Pancras
Civil Parish: St. Pancras
Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Mathews
Piece:116; Enum District 5; Folio 110, Page 46; Schedule; 376
House Number: 7
House or Street Name: Carlow St., (NW1).

2nd section:
Hamblin Henry, Boardr, S (single), M (male), age 23,
Hackney Carriage Driver (Em'ee)
County: London (City)
Place: St. Pancras

Any ideas of the Em'ee?
Is this the person i'm looking for?
2 & 2 seems to add up.

Maybe i'll have a good chance at the G.Reg.Office?

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Just so you have an idea what has already been found this is link to Calpe's previous thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=339253.306;topicseen

03-07-2023
I'll look into this later

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Firstly, please allow for any name references, persons etc. i might forget to mention, it is not my intention. Just trying to get my head around so much information coming forward. With thanks in advance.
Information i have on Henry C. Hamblin is the following: -
1901 Census, Civil Parish of Kensington, address 167 Clarendon Rd, 3 rooms occupied.
Head of Family, age 28, occupation - Hackney Carriage driver, born London St. Pancras.
Also listed as his wife Beatrice (born Bedford, Luton), age 28 and 4 children.
In the 1911 Census: -
Henry Hamblin, age 42, married 20 years, Taxi Cab Driver, birthplace St Pancras, London.
Listed is his wife Beatrice (born Luton, Bedford) and 8 children, one had died, (no name).
In Ancestry UK 1911 Census, they give the address as 36 Clifton Gardens, Chiswick, London.
With thanks to Richard Parka, he has covered all of Henry C. Hamblin's children, so of course the interest here is in Henry's ancestors and general information.

Again thanks to Richard Parka, i've now added all this information

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Whilst in 1901 & 1911 Henry Hamblin has Beatrice (nee Turner) as wife we haven't found a marriage index for them. 1911 says they were married for 20 years which suggests it was in 1891. The first daughter listed Violet (Mary Ellen) Hamblin we've established was born on 18 June 1891 in Pancras to mother Beatrice Lilian Turner (no father on birth certificate) & the GRO index has mother's maiden name blank. There is no proof that Henry Hamblin is the father.
The next child Henry George birth index is in Mar 1896 Fulham RD born Hammersmith as per census. Henry & all subsequent children on the censuses plus those born after 1911 have mother's maiden name of Turner. They may not have married but if they did it would be between 1901 & 1906.  Perhaps get the birth cert of Henry George to get more information.   
The child who was dead as per 1911 census was Charles Cyril Hamblin born Sept 1902, mother's maiden name of Turner. & died aged 0 years in Mar 1903, both Kensington RD.
Henry Hamblin's occupation in 1911 Taxi cab driver & in 1901 Hackney carriage driver as is the occupation of Harry Hamblin found in 1891, so suggesting that they are same person.
Regards John

03-07-2023
John, very interesting to read that no father was entered on all those Birth Certificates and that Charles Cyril (Hamblin) born Sept 1902, shows mother's maiden name of Turner.
Richard Parka found this death Cert. which does list Henry Hamblin as father, the baby having died 10-01-1903.
Also Richard Parka found birth Cert, for the 2nd child, Henry George Hamblin (born 05-01-1896), father is Henry Hamblin, mother Beatrice Lillian Hamblin formerly Turner. As Henry Hamblin is listed as father in 1896 what does this tells us?

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Just as markers, there is this birth reg:
Henry Hambling Pancras 1b 12 Sep 1870 Qtr
Also these three (one is Glos)  all Sep 1867 Qtr:
Henry Charles Hamblin Westbury S. 6a 229
Henry Claude Hamblen West Ham 4a 26
Henry Hamblin St Martin 1a 415
One more:
Harry Charles Hamblin Reading 2c 370 Mar 1869 Qtr

03-07-2023
So much for the Registrar's of those days.
Typos galore
Which 'Hamblin' would i check for at the G.R.Office?

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Thanks John. Its on order, 13/07/2020,  last pdf birth cert. took 2 weeks to arrive.

Sorry, to Clarify properly :  I ordered Harry Hamblin, 1874 Qtr. Mar.   St Pancras.   Vil 01B Pg 152 Birth Cert.
That middle name Cyril apears only once  as far as I know, on my mothers marrige cert,
My remote hope is that it apears on the St Pancras "Harry"  above too giving it weight. In the probable absence of Henry Cyril Hamblin- Beatrice Lilian Turner wedding cert ever existing.
Thanks the child Charles Cyril d. 0 find. He was born my uncle & sadly I never knew of this existance until recently. Noticably the Cyril middle apears documented again for the second time

03-07-2023
A small typo there from Richard Parka, the name should be Henry (Cyril) Hamblin and yes as he says, on his mother's marriage certificate it does list the middle name of Cyril.
Lets keep digging for Henry Cyril Hamblin's correct birth certificate.
I wonder about the marriage certificate too....