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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #180 on: Sunday 16 July 23 16:03 BST (UK) »
Despite the wrong age I think Harry Hamblin is highly likely to be yours, especially as he is a boarder which can lead to wrong details or maybe he lied about his age. Does he give correct age on later censuses?
To answer my own question  in 1901 says he is 28 but  in 1911 he states  he is 42 - so some confusion there.
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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #181 on: Sunday 16 July 23 16:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks janan  :), as always very suportive in understanding  my limited experience.

This entry is a bit of a chesnut thats been sighted  by others before, but I  thought worth an airing again with a  known fixed birth date.

In that  none of his given ages, by Henry or others, have never coordinated with the math to date  ???. This would be par for course. From that I assume,  he or informants had no real idea of his age, or not much interest anyway.
 

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Henry Hamblen 1872-1948
« Reply #182 on: Thursday 20 July 23 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi, No, I don't think that Maria married a Hamblen. But she must have been calling herself Hamblen, according to the marriage register. Presumably he was the man who had fathered her children (one or two or all three). Can he now be found? Jon
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Apologies once again, heatwave temperatures on average mid 30°C's, just makes working on something like this very difficult and rather than post a mess, ive laid back, temperature today thankfully has dropped.

I see jonw65 says he doesn't think Maria Beale married a Hamblen, but she began using the presumed father's surname of her children. Of course we don't know if he fathered all three of the children.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #183 on: Thursday 20 July 23 19:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
I think it's now reasonable to assume that Jacob Henry fathered all three children. They all have the Hamblen middle name, and we know a Henry Hamblen is the father on certificates 1 and 3. We also have your Henry born in Manchester Street?

It probably won't help, though we can hope, but Jacob Henry did leave a will. With wife Julia the executor. We don't know when it was written of course. For £1.50 it wouldn't do any harm to have it?


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Henry Hamblin 1872-1948
« Reply #184 on: Thursday 20 July 23 20:40 BST (UK) »
New GRO birth index, just the once
HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER     
Mother's Maiden Surname: 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596
So is there going to be a father named on this birth registration
Right, I ordered it for £2.50.
This is what it says
When/Where Born
Nineteenth December 1868
13 Great Ormond Yard

Name - Henry Hambler
Sex - Boy
Name/Surname Father - Henry Hambler
Name (maiden surname) Mother - Maria Beale
Rank/Profession Father - Wine Merchant
Name/Residence Informant - M Beale Mother
13 Great Ormond Yard Queen Square
When Registered - Twenty eighth January 1869

I just can't get the hang of the G.R.O. digital image request, after entering this, got nothing: -

Birth Registered Year - 1868 +/- 1 years
Surname at Birth - Hambler
First Forename  - Henry
Second Forename - Hambler
Sex - Male
District of Birth - Holborn
Quarter - tried all four
Volume - 01B
Page - 596

Frustrating!
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #185 on: Thursday 20 July 23 20:58 BST (UK) »
Birth Registration was in March qtr 1869.
(FreeBMD)

GRO says:
    HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER      -     
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #186 on: Thursday 20 July 23 21:01 BST (UK) »
I just tried on GRO and got it fine. I usually find when I can’t get something that I have mucked up the district or the quarters.
This entry comes up OK if you forget about them and just enter his name Henry Hambler in 1869 (1868 +/- 1 worked too)

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Henry Hamblen Hambler Hamblin
« Reply #187 on: Friday 21 July 23 18:10 BST (UK) »
New GRO birth index, just the once
HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER     
Mother's Maiden Surname: 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596
So is there going to be a father named on this birth registration
Right, I ordered it for £2.50. This is what it says.
When/Where Born - Nineteenth December 1868, 13 Great Ormond Yard
Name - Henry Hambler
Sex - Boy
Name/Surname Father - Henry Hambler
Name (maiden surname) Mother - Maria Beale
Rank/Profession Father - Wine Merchant
Name/Residence Informant - M Beale Mother, 13 Great Ormond Yard Queen Square
When Registered - Twenty eighth January 1869
Registrar - John Boyden Goodhugh

Having looked at this again, I'm really sorry to say that this is getting a little puzzling....
We have a Henry Hambler Hambler, born 19/12/1868, 13 Great Ormond St., Holborn.
His father is a Henry Hambler, Wine Merchant.
His mother is Maria Beale.

So this is the same child that passed away 18 Sep 1869?
Somewhere down the line i have as the parents a Jacob H Hambler (1828-1874) and Maria Beale (b. 1850).
Doesn't appear to make sense from the Family Tree Maker PC programme i have.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Henry Hamblin
« Reply #188 on: Friday 21 July 23 18:20 BST (UK) »
I think he is in Pancras in 1871
No Jacob, he is just Henry Hamlin
Married, Age 43, Merchant, born Falmouth

Visiting Walter D Whitty, Barrister at law, and his wife Catherine. Both 33, born Liverpool.
Where is his wife Julia?

Ok so ive removed the Jacob, but now we have yet another spelling of his surname Hamlin.
What does the 'visiting Walter D. Whitty......' mean?
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain