Henry C. Hamblin

[jonwarrn]

Julia Hamblin is living at 14 Gloucester Rd (the same address as she is living at when Jacob Henry Hamlin dies in 1874) in 1871, 81 and 91 - in household of Charles Saxton (transcribed as Sartow in 1871) solicitor born 1813.

As she is at 14 Gloucester Rd in 1871 it does suggest she left Jacob Henry.

There is also a London Gazette entry for 1866 for bankruptcy for Jacob Henry Hamblin

Well done. It all seems to have come together very nicely.

[Calpe 1704]

There seem to be three Hamblen Beale births (if we include the first one indexed Hambler in 1869)
We don't know that the same man was the father of all three children.
Only that Maria used the surname Hamblen when she married.

Apologies for late reply, the heatwave (average 29/30 degrees) has really made things very difficult with R.Chat, other priorities came first.
With these 3 Hamblen Beale births, then is it to be understood that Maria Beale was the mother of these 3?

[Calpe 1704]

Death under Beale, Sep 1869 Holborn 1b 407, Beale, Henry Hambler, Age 0

OK, we have a burial for him 18 Sep 1869, Victoria Park Cemetery, Henry Hambler Beale
Age 9 months, Address 13 Gt Ormond Yard Holborn
That is where William and Elmira Beale are in the 1871 census.

Ok, so this child Henry Hambler Beale was one of the 3 children Maria Beale had. but the child passed away only 9 months old.

[Calpe 1704]

Birth indexed twice on old GRO index, March 1869 Holborn 1b 596, Beale, Henry Hambler - Hambler, Henry Hambler
New GRO birth index, just the once - HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER     
Mother's Maiden Surname:  —, GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596,

So is there going to be a father named on this birth registration?
Indexed twice originally, suggests yes.
But mother's maiden surname blank on new index.
Whoever Mr. Hamblen (or Hambler!) was, whether the father of Henry 2 or not, the answer might be out there!

Why would the GRO have him indexed twice with two different names?
Beale, Henry Hambler  ---  Hambler, Henry Hambler

[KGarrad]

GRO creates an index entry for every surname mentioned on the certificate.

Probably because both father and mother are named?

[Calpe 1704]

Hi, I've attached the marriage.
Hope you can see it.

Thank you so much, ive now added all the information shown on the Marriage Certificate.
Can't make out the name of the Church... Its certainly looks like St. Savior's, Parish of St. Pancras.
So we can see that Maria might have married twice.
That she used the surname Hablen, the father of her children when she married Samuel Henry Collins.

[Calpe 1704]

New GRO birth index, just the once
HAMBLER, HENRY  HAMBLER     
Mother's Maiden Surname:  —
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in OF HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 596

So is there going to be a father named on this birth registration

Right, I ordered it for £2.50.
This is what it says
When/Where Born
Nineteenth December 1868
13 Great Ormond Yard

Name: Henry Hambler
Sex: Boy
Name/Surname Father: Henry Hambler
Name (maiden surname) Mother Maria Beale
Rank/Profession Father: Wine Merchant
Name/Residence Informant: M Beale Mother
13 Great Ormond Yard Queen Square
When Registered: Twenty eighth January 1869
Registrar: John Boyden Goodhugh

Thank you for that information.
I wonder if the surname is the correct spelling or it's changed in error from Hambler, Hablen then Hamblin...

[Calpe 1704]

Hi
Well we now have one of the other children's birth details. So I am looking into Mr Hamblen the wine merchant. Possibly the father of your Henry born 1872, as well as the one born in 1868?

Jacob left a will, Probate Calendar, 1874, 16 November
Jacob Henry Hamblen, Formerly of 16 Albion Villas, Albion Road, Dalston, Middlesex, Merchant
Late of 2 Manchester Street, Grays Inn Lane, Merchant's clerk. Died 16 August at 2 Manchester Street. Proved at the Principal Registry by Julia Hamblen of 14 Gloucester Road Regent's Park, Widow the Relict, the sole Executrix

I know that Henry Hamblen was born 1st June 1872, 2 Manchester Street, mother Maria Beale

[Calpe 1704]

I think he is in Pancras in 1871
No Jacob, he is just Henry Hamlin
Married, Age 43, Merchant, born Falmouth

Visiting Walter D Whitty, Barrister at law, and his wife Catherine. Both 33, born Liverpool.
Where is his wife Julia?

Interesting, but all these variations of the surname is sadly making this look a bit messy, we now have a Henry HAMLIN....