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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 15:34 BST (UK) »
That was 1842  :-\
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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 15:37 BST (UK) »
Have not been able to find her in the 1841 Census...........

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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 16:07 BST (UK) »
Possibly the one in Sutton Maddock 1841 as that is where she was in 1851
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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 16:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks, i don't have her in either the 1841 or the 51, only in the 1861. So i will now take a look......
But as you know, i'm not so worried about her, as we know what happened, but the two other children, are a mystery.........John and Joseph Fletcher...........I can't find a "hair" of them anywhere...... :'(


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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 17:09 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure what the rules are regarding my contact with you all, and not sure if i'm allowed to say your "usernames" but i will just this one time.
Rosie99 many thanks for all your help over the time i have had inquiries.....you and your team members have solved a lot of mysteries in my family lines.............many many thanks for all your time and devotion.

I have only found one Margaret Fletcher in the 1841 Census and this Margaret was in Bolas Magna and she was with a family of Fletchers..........The 1851 Census i found a Margaret Beedlestone with a John Beedlestone............but don't think this is her as her husband is Francis.

After our emails back and forth tonight about John Fletcher and Caroline Freeman Smith, i can now see my "folly" and to think i spent all those hours researching the wrong person ??? All i saw was that the father was John Fletcher "deceased" and the rest, went into overdrive...........all those wasted hours. If only i had realized that his date of birth was so wrong for this marriage. In a way i'm glad i made contact with you all, as i most likely would have still been researching him and Caroline.
Well my Fletcher family still remain a problem, but who knows.................. one day :D

Thank you again Rosie99 and Milliepede.........stay well and stay safe.

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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 17:44 BST (UK) »
Sometimes looking at the parents records helps to locate the children.  What was Margarets maiden name and when did she marry John Fletcher
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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 09 July 20 09:48 BST (UK) »
Good morning Rosie99,
                                       Thank you for your email.
I could and would gladly give you all the information you require regarding Margaret's maiden surname and where and when she married and her history further back, as i have it, but i just CANT break into her husband's line of family............John Fletcher. He is my direct line and it is very important for me to follow his line or at least find his parents or descendants.
This is why i have been concentrating on his male children. I have been trying my hardest to find his descendants. 
I believe he died between 1835-1840,(place and date unknown) he must have passed i believe shortly after the birth of his last son John Fletcher, born 4th Jan 1835 in Rodington, Salop...........as no more children were born as far as i can tell and then Margaret re-marries as you know to Francis Beedlestone in 1842. There was another son born to this couple not long after their marriage: Joseph Fletcher b. 11th May 1828, Wellington. Shropshire. He is still missing to me and the family.

Rosie99, today i was surprised as I found, then "trawled" through my messages over the year or two that i have made contact with "RootsChat". I find that all the information and inquiries still exist on the "open" web, and i'm a bit troubled by it. Is there any way of "deleting" my correspondence and inquiries from the web?
This is why i'm a bit more cautious this time about giving you names of the above family. I also realize that they will be forever in "open" sight. I also realize that with out telling you most of the information you won't be able to assist me with my inquiry. This is a real dilemma for me.
Is there any way around this? I see that there is a place i can personally email you on the left side of my inquiry (personal message)..........i could send you all the important information via here? I don't think this is public?
Mentioning a few names here and there i won't worry about as long as most of it is hidden.......
What do you think, can we give it a go and try?
I will send you a "personal message" with all the information and we can take it from there?

I would really love to end one of these last mysteries, and will be advised by you.
Thank you for listening to me and my concerns...........bye for now Cinny22

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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 09 July 20 10:32 BST (UK) »
Hi
These people are already in "open sight" and died long ago. What is the harm in naming them? Especially when you already have :)
Records of them are indexed and available online.

Marriage of John Fletcher and Margaret Peplow was at Wellington, 15 May 1827
Image is on FamilySearch, a witness was Joseph Fletcher
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH6-7SRD-C?cc=3155854

Baptism of Joseph in 1828, details already given by Rosie on your old thread, but here is the image.
John was a Labourer.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6T-JVG4?i=130&cc=3155854

So the name Joseph appears to be a good clue to something - marriage witness, and first son.
Good luck!
John

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Re: William Smith and Family.
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 09 July 20 11:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks jonw65, i do take your point, but unfortunately life is much more complicated.
Never the less with regards to the Joseph as a witness.....possibly brother.............i have spent hours researching this evidence and all with out success..............and as i have found out researching other members of family who leave off information in documents..............witness's could be other members, such as Cousins, Uncles etc...........life is not, so straight forward.