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Ship name
« on: Wednesday 08 July 20 12:51 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Looking at some merchant navy records, any idea what the third ship here is?

First is "Jane", then two instances of "William", but I am stuck as to the third ship.

Many thanks!

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Re: Ship name
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 13:13 BST (UK) »
Arachne?

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Re: Ship name
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 14:58 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin

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Re: Ship name
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 15:04 BST (UK) »
There were two merchant ships named ARACHNE around in 1840. one was registered in Portsmouth. The ship you are looking for was registered in Liverpool. Her Port Rotation number was 62/7662. Port number 62 was Liverpool. No key exists to connect the Port Rotation Number to the name of a ship.
Port 39 was Exeter and port 64 was London.
Suggest you scour Lloyd's register 1839 to 1841 to see if you can find a ship with that name or similar.  https://hec.lrfoundation.org.uk/archive-library/lloyds-register-of-ships-online
Be aware that Lloyd's reg doesn't contain details of all ships.
I would also email Liverpool Maritime Museum to see if they can help.
Newspapers can also give some information.. Several Liverpool newspapers reported that a vessel named as ARACHNE arrived in Liverpool from Mauritius 08/04/1840. ( Lloyd's List says 07/04/1840) No mention as to where she was registered but the dates fit.

Nettie. The ship we are looking for is a merchant ship. the ship you refer to is a Royal Navy vessel.

Crew Agreements 1840 of Liverpool ships can be obtained from the National Archives
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4064706

 For total confimation that this is the correct vessel. You would need to visit Kew to view. They reopen 21st July.
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Re: Ship name
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 19:12 BST (UK) »
The Arachne I mentioned started of as a Naval vessel in 1809 but was in private hands by 1840, just thought it could have been a possible match.
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin

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Re: Ship name
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 20:25 BST (UK) »
No worries Nettie I should have explained a little better. She appears in Lloyd's Register in 1838 and her home port was Exeter up until 1845 when it looks like her owner and POR was changed to London.
So not the vessel we seek.
Of course we may have the name wrong or the original document was wrongly transcribed.
I think a visit to Kew to view BT98/339 would be my next step.
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