Dorizac Family in England - Name Origin?

[melba_schmelba]

Wow, all this research is amazing, thank you everyone! France is certainly sounding possible. French protestant would also certainly seem plausible for the time. Where are you all finding the French Dorizacs?

I have taken a DNA test which sadly gave no clues, saying I'm 100% English, Scottish and Irish (despite I know for sure I have quite a bit of distant French ancestry from another line). I am 7 generations removed from Peter Dorizac however, so I guess it makes sense that it might not show up.

None of the providers are particularly good at detecting French DNA, but 23andme is probably better than Ancestry. Part of the problem is commercial DNA testing is illegal in France without a court order (i.e. to verify paternity), so the companies have difficulty in obtaining reference samples. I think Ancestry acquired a French university study made a few years ago that used medical samples, but I think they did not realize there was huge immigration from Italy and Spain in the late 19th - mid 20th century so they didn't know they would need to be careful about just picking people out with French sounding surnames, when in certain areas of France, it is quite likely some people could almost half Italian or Spanish from recent ancestry. The other effect of that was a lot of people on Ancestry with known Italian ancestry suddenly became French  .

[garstonite]

Someone said the Pyrenees
Gabrielle Dorizac born 1742 Campan , Hautes -Pyrenees ,France

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campan

Added
another French region - The Dordogne 1763

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGB7-DKPL

you may want to consider the surname DOROSCZAK in Radozyce ,Poland - quote -
Radoszyce was a town from ca. 1370 to 1869 in the county of Konskie ,Poland - I think it is Ukraine now

[osgoodfield]

Hi is this thread still active. My great great (Think) grandfather on my mother's side was Frederick Charles Dorizac born in Sheerness Kent in 1853, 1855 or 1856 - different references. He jumped ship in Wellington as a 14 year-old ships violinist - captains cabin boy (family lore). He founded the New Zealand and Australian branch of the family. We always believed the name huguenot in origin. I am presently living in France and am interested in following up any leads here.

[Anne Forrest]

My great grandmother was Elizabeth Dorizac who was Frederick's sister. Frederick boarded a ship called Megaera at Sheerness, Kent, England taking the job of Captains cabin boy. This ship was bound for Australia but was shipwrecked in the Indian Ocean. The survivors landed on an island belonging to France called St Pauls. All survived until they were rescued and taken to Australia. I don't know what happened to Frederick after that but I have a record of him being an immigrant  to New Zealand and living there until he died in 1945. 

I would love to here from you. Perhaps we could piece the rest of the story together. I live in England so not too far from you if you are still in France. One more interesting fact is that the story in our family was also that the Dorizacs were originally French Huguenots who came to England. However I have been to the Huguenot museum in Rochester and they were unable to trace the name in their records.

[brigidmac]

harling + melba

its worth re-checking your Ancestry dna results as they are constantly refining categories and french is now included specifically

germanic also turns up quite a lot

also with dna tests you may be able to prove your connections to each other


this topic is  interesting  : looking forward to reading any further conclusions

my french neice wants to take dna  test .her ancestors are from beynac in dordogne region . a lot of the place names there end -ac 

[melba_schmelba]

harling + melba

its worth re-checking your Ancestry dna results as they are constantly refining categories and french is now included specifically

germanic also turns up quite a lot

also with dna tests you may be able to prove your connections to each other


this topic is  interesting  : looking forward to reading any further conclusions

my french neice wants to take dna  test .her ancestors are from beynac in dordogne region . a lot of the place names there end -ac

Ancestry has always had a French category, but I know from testing a person of 100% French ancestry, that it isn't very accurate in that it only covers a very small set of samples, and those are likely of French Quebecois, which is a narrow focus as emigration to Quebec was mostly from specific parts of France and hardly any from others. This person's France % has gone from 25% to 55% then back to down to 40%, with most of the rest varying Irish and British categories. It reflects the fact they have vastly more samples from GB and Ireland so these are the closest match for the DNA of many French people that the algorithm recognises. Their closest matches are also very small, about 30cM the largest. So for French people of mostly French descent unfortunately it isn't going to tell you much, unless you have ancestry from other countries or ethnicities where testing is much more common, or groups that recently emigrated to the US/Canada/UK/NZ/Australia etc which represent the highest amount of Ancestry testers.

[Creasegirl]

If you think there is a Huguenot connection you could always try looking for records in Lausanne as that was where a large population went to.  I only found this out when researching my own family tree. I dont think from a DNA perspective you can get accurate French matches as they dont get added to the database. 

[melba_schmelba]

If you think there is a Huguenot connection you could always try looking for records in Lausanne as that was where a large population went to.  I only found this out when researching my own family tree. I dont think from a DNA perspective you can get accurate French matches as they dont get added to the database.

MyHeritage kits were sold in French supermarkets for many years, but supposedly they have cracked down on it recently. So there are a significant amount of French testers on MyHeritage - I know because you can filter by country and I have seen many French tests as matches. But there are other ways French people who are determined do get hold of DNA tests as described here

https://genealogie-genetique.com/comment-recevoir-un-test-adn-en-france/

Huguenot migration was so long ago, any 'Huguenot DNA' would likely just be detected as whatever the country those emigrants had been most settled in i.e. British, Irish, Dutch, German, Swiss etc. as it would be so dispersed amongst those populations.

[osgoodfield]

My great grandmother was Elizabeth Dorizac who was Frederick's sister. Frederick boarded a ship called Megaera at Sheerness, Kent, England taking the job of Captains cabin boy. This ship was bound for Australia but was shipwrecked in the Indian Ocean. The survivors landed on an island belonging to France called St Pauls. All survived until they were rescued and taken to Australia. I don't know what happened to Frederick after that but I have a record of him being an immigrant  to New Zealand and living there until he died in 1945. 

I would love to here from you. Perhaps we could piece the rest of the story together. I live in England so not too far from you if you are still in France. One more interesting fact is that the story in our family was also that the Dorizacs were originally French Huguenots who came to England. However I have been to the Huguenot museum in Rochester and they were unable to trace the name in their records.

Hi Anne, Here I am, still settled in France. How do we make contact apart from posting on roots chat? I will try and attach a photo of grandfather Dorizac. There are Huguenot museum sin the south of France but I haven't tried them yet. Will watch out for a reply. Failed with the photo but will try later.