Author Topic: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858  (Read 6768 times)

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #81 on: Saturday 24 January 26 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank  you  so  much for  your beautiful reply, your  dad    will certainly  be  in the arms  of  those he loved and  has loved  him, may  he rest in peace

Louisa  Maud

Yes he is Louisa...and always looking down at us. x

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #82 on: Saturday 24 January 26 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Lisa,

I found the copy of the Journal of Burwood and District family journal online today dated March 2021.

Thank you for considering the information I supplied regarding my great, great grandparents in your journal. 

Reading the journal, I believe that other's recounts that were discovered after the original research on this ship were accepted without question.  It also mentions that records were not accurately recorded.

My grandfather's birthdate was the date that the Fanny Kirchner arrived in Australia.  In your journal, you have his date of birth incorrect.  They arrived in Australia the same time as the Fanny Kirchner.  From my great grandfather's headstone, his date of birth is exactly the date of the ship arriving in Australia.  In your journal, you mentioned that his parents Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider had on board a daughter also named Elizabeth.  This is not the case as Carl was the first born and a sister named Elizabeth was born later in Australia.

Lisa, the story of my great, great grandparents has been handed down in time.  There is no reason for me to believe otherwise.  Yes, some facts may be inaccurate including small pox, however, everything that was printed in your evidence from the newspapers could of hid the truth, especially the recounts of other passengers that you have acknowledged who passed away and were thrown into sea.  There was no mention of that into the investigation of the Fanny Kirchner in the newspapers available on Trove. A similar story was shared with my family.  My great, great grandfather was unwell and the crew threatened to throw him overboard.  My great, great grandmother stayed awake next to him all night so this didn't happen.  Lisa, there story aligns with the other authors you have found that were also on the Fanny Kirchner. 

Tomorrow, I will share a newspaper article that is not on Trove regarding my great grandfather Carl and his wife's anniversary.  In this, he shares his story of being born on a ship in Port Jackson on that date. 

Lisa, I hope that you can find in your heart to accept that out of love for my family, I would like my ancestors' story acknowledged and accepted.  They never wrote a book or published a memoir of their travels...they just spoke their truth from their heart. 

With the most kindest regards,
Leisa

Years later...the stories that have been passed down...speaking truth from their heart...I understand that time, dates, years and stories can change.  x

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #83 on: Saturday 24 January 26 13:22 GMT (UK) »
You know it is impossible for him to be born 16 Feb 1859 because his brother was born in May 1859 in Queensland, so both the newspaper article and the headstone are wrong, or it was a different ship.

If we assume that it should be 16 Feb 1858 then the day of birth is impossible because the Fanny Kirchner didn't arrive into Port Jackson until 27 Feb.

Debra  :)


Thank you Debra,

A good point which I did not know. 

I have recently ordered Carl's brother's and sister's birth and death certificates to find out more.  There is some confusion with the dates which I acknowledge.

Kind regards,
Leisa

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 25 January 26 01:23 GMT (UK) »
I have just noted that in one of my replies (pg 8, Reply #70)
I have used the wrong name in reference to you, Leisa.

I wrote Frieda! 
Sorry..
Sue
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