Author Topic: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858  (Read 6302 times)

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 04 January 26 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Oh gosh, is that the first proposal  on Rootschat??

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 04 January 26 15:02 GMT (UK) »
I‘ll have to ask my wife first 8)

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 04 January 26 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear!!

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 04 January 26 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Dear Sue and Jerry, and everyone else who has contributed,

I am so grateful for your patience and for pointing me in the right direction.


Information I’ve gathered regarding Carl’s birth:
The Ship and Voyage: I am focusing on the Armin (Master: Capt. Sommer), which arrived in Port Jackson in November 1858 but was still in port through Jan/Feb 1859. I’ve learned there were 10 births on board during that voyage.
I have never been able to find a birth certificate for my great-grandfather Carl, but I am now wondering if he was actually born in early 1859 while the family was in isolation. Because of a reported case of smallpox on board, the passengers were moved to the North Head Quarantine Station at Spring Cove.

Leisa




From my reply #46 this thread.
Please re -read and click on the link

The Armin departed NSW  Fri Jan 21, 1859. For NZ.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13015158?searchTerm=%22armin%22

So gone by Feb


So likely he was born at the Quarantine Station, though I would say that 3 months detention there seems lengthy if he did not set foot on Aust soil until February.
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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 04 January 26 22:28 GMT (UK) »

I have officially ordered the birth and death certificates for Wilhelm. I am doing this with the understanding that these Queensland records may not be 100% accurate.

The "source image" would be the best to obtain. Not only is it cheaper and faster, but it will contain information that may not have been transcribed onto a certificate.


The 1876 marriage cert of Elizabeth Schmeider to Henry Damm
Will be useful to your research for the information about her birth.
Again, the source image is the best option.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 04 January 26 23:22 GMT (UK) »

  In your journal, you mentioned that his parents Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider had on board a daughter also named Elizabeth.  This is not the case as Carl was the first born and a sister named Elizabeth was born later in Australia.

Leisa


Dear Leisa,
 
The daughter, Elisabeth Marie, mentioned in the article, married Henry DAMM and passed away 16 Oct 1879, aged just 23, that is, she was born c.1856


Perhaps davecapps might look for a birth for Elizabeth in their home country in case there has been an error in the family story.

Her marriage and the birth of a daughter can of course be found on QLD BMD.

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #60 on: Monday 05 January 26 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Death (Qld Microfishe Death Records)
Fredolin SCHMEIDER
D: 17/2/1875
F: Andrew Schneider
M: Catherina

Have you looked at the Catholic German records available on FamilySearch, and the work done on this tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/L2ZC-SNQ
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Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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can you give me a link to the Catholic German records available on FamilySearch
Thanks

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Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)