Author Topic: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858  (Read 6362 times)

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 02 September 21 13:40 BST (UK) »
Dear Lisa,

I was so sad reading your reply.

From my research and that of what my family has told me, I continue to believe that the dates on my great grandfather's headstone buried in the Catholic cemetery in Bundaberg, Qld, is proof that no matter what the shipping records, that we not accurate and also destroyed in Bremen, Germany because of the wars, that my great grandfather Carl was born on the ship.  My beautiful dad recently passed after 87 years of loving his family.  He told me the stories passed on by other members of his family how his grandfather was bought out to Australia.  To this day, my research stays true and I will continue to hold on to that, as only family members who have heard the stories which have been passed onto generations speaks more than any media could.  I am proudly tonight, holding on to this for my dad.  He loved his family so much and I know that his ancestry is true. 

The night dad passed away, I told him that he will soon be with his family he loved so much.  I am so grateful for everything I found out for him and for all of the people that assisted me on the way. 

Life will never be the same without him. 


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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 02 September 21 13:44 BST (UK) »
I would like to thank everyone on here for what they have done for dad and I.

I am forever grateful to you all.

With so much love and so much sadness for my beautiful dad,
Leisa x

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 02 September 21 14:55 BST (UK) »
Thank  you  so  much for  your beautiful reply, your  dad    will certainly  be  in the arms  of  those he loved and  has loved  him, may  he rest in peace

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 05 September 21 08:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your lovely message.

Others might like to see the wording on your grandfather's headstone:

Carl Frederick Schmeider
Died July 30, 1942
Aged 83 yrs & 5 mths




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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #22 on: Monday 10 April 23 14:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you Lisa,

I found the copy of the Journal of Burwood and District family journal online today dated March 2021.

Thank you for considering the information I supplied regarding my great, great grandparents in your journal. 

Reading the journal, I believe that other's recounts that were discovered after the original research on this ship were accepted without question.  It also mentions that records were not accurately recorded.

My grandfather's birthdate was the date that the Fanny Kirchner arrived in Australia.  In your journal, you have his date of birth incorrect.  They arrived in Australia the same time as the Fanny Kirchner.  From my great grandfather's headstone, his date of birth is exactly the date of the ship arriving in Australia.  In your journal, you mentioned that his parents Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider had on board a daughter also named Elizabeth.  This is not the case as Carl was the first born and a sister named Elizabeth was born later in Australia.

Lisa, the story of my great, great grandparents has been handed down in time.  There is no reason for me to believe otherwise.  Yes, some facts may be inaccurate including small pox, however, everything that was printed in your evidence from the newspapers could of hid the truth, especially the recounts of other passengers that you have acknowledged who passed away and were thrown into sea.  There was no mention of that into the investigation of the Fanny Kirchner in the newspapers available on Trove. A similar story was shared with my family.  My great, great grandfather was unwell and the crew threatened to throw him overboard.  My great, great grandmother stayed awake next to him all night so this didn't happen.  Lisa, there story aligns with the other authors you have found that were also on the Fanny Kirchner. 

Tomorrow, I will share a newspaper article that is not on Trove regarding my great grandfather Carl and his wife's anniversary.  In this, he shares his story of being born on a ship in Port Jackson on that date. 

Lisa, I hope that you can find in your heart to accept that out of love for my family, I would like my ancestors' story acknowledged and accepted.  They never wrote a book or published a memoir of their travels...they just spoke their truth from their heart. 

With the most kindest regards,
Leisa

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #23 on: Monday 10 April 23 14:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you Maud and buttons for believing in me. 

It means so much x

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #24 on: Monday 10 April 23 14:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you Maud and buttons for believing in me. 

It means so much x
Thank you for your lovely message.

Others might like to see the wording on your grandfather's headstone:

Carl Frederick Schmeider
Died July 30, 1942
Aged 83 yrs & 5 mths


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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #25 on: Monday 10 April 23 14:05 BST (UK) »
Thank  you  so  much for  your beautiful reply, your  dad    will certainly  be  in the arms  of  those he loved and  has loved  him, may  he rest in peace

Louisa  Maud

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Re: Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider aboard the Fanny Kirchner from Germany in 1858
« Reply #26 on: Monday 10 April 23 14:13 BST (UK) »
For whoever is on this chat and is interested more in my family...

The Ipswich library has featured the Schmeider family as original pioneers in the Fassifern district. 

Furthermore, I have seven folders of research including newspaper articles, land titles, birth and death records and certificates.  These are still today kept in my dad's room.  Since I began my research in 2010, the smile and memories it bought my dad before he passed away keeps my heart beating.  He loved his family and so do I. x