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Trying to find details about Atilio Locatelli
« on: Tuesday 30 June 20 20:27 BST (UK) »
I'm finding it exceptionally hard to trace the war service information about a relative of mine called Atilio (This may be spelt ATTILIO, or he may be registered under the English name Arthur!) Locatelli. He was in the Royal Army Service Corps, regtl number M/350134 and was killed on or after 14 December 1917. As far as we are aware, he fought in the Italian campaign against the Austro-Hungarians.

His medal card shows he was entitled to the War Medal and Victory Medal, but my cousin who is a more direct relative of his tells me that she has two Italian medals (I think they have his name on them). One is the Unification of Italy medal but she hasn't yet identified the second.

I'm basically helping her to research her family because she knows virtually nothing about anyone further back than her mother. I would be very grateful if someone would be willing to see if they can track down any service information about Attilio/Arthur Locatelli, born 1885 in Blackfriars, Middlesex, married to Angele Locatelli née Copin.

Thank you in hopeful anticipation,

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Re: Trying to find details about Atilio Locatelli
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 20:45 BST (UK) »
Is it coincidence that an Attilio Locatelli born 9 April 1889 (I know the date is different) died in Camberwell in 1969?  The appears to be no WW1 death.

So far only the medal records appear.

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Re: Trying to find details about Atilio Locatelli
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 20:51 BST (UK) »
Did you check freebmd for his birth reg?

1885 - He was registered as Umbarto Attilo Locatelli but his MRI entry is Attilio Locatelli.  I can't see an entry for him on www.cwgc.org
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 20:52 BST (UK) »
Probate record
Attillio Locatelli known as Arthur of 77 Albert St Regents Park Middlesex died
on or since 14 December 1917 in Italy Admin London 26 Nov to Angele Locatelli widow Effects £210

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Re: Trying to find details about Atilio Locatelli
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 20:54 BST (UK) »
So - different person than in post

1889 birth for Attelio Carlo Locatelli on freebmd - b Fulham

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Re: Trying to find details about Atilio Locatelli
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 21:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for the rapid replies!

Atilio was killed in action around December 1917 so the guy who died in the 1960s is definitely not him. Thanks, Max! ;)

Suzard: you've got exactly the right man. I actually have that particular piece of info saved in Ancestry but I just cannot trace his military career, short though it was.

CaroleW: No, I haven't checked Freebmd - thanks for that suggestion. I will now be able to try to find Umbarto Attilio Locatelli thanks to your efforts. I'm sorry but I don't understand MRI? Also, thank you for checking the CWGC listing.

We do know that he was killed in action/died somehow during the war because his daughter remembered that she was 6 when he died. That would have made the date between 1916 and 1917, as Anita was born in May 1910.

His grand-daughter (my cousin for whom I'm doing the research) has two Italian medals: the Medaglia dell Guerra and also the Widows medal which was obviously issued to Angele Locatelli. It's interesting that he was awarded both Italian and British medals, yet my cousin does not seem to have the British ones.

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Re: Trying to find details about Atilio Locatelli
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 22:29 BST (UK) »
All surname Locatelli

GRO shows 1885 birth as Umberto Attilio - freebmd has Umbarto Attilo - mothers maiden name was Balbiani

Also Luigi Angelo b 1889 - mmn Balbiani

Per GRO - note spelling - Attelis Carto - mothers maiden name was Riva

Also Richard John Matthew Francis b 1888 mmn Riva

1881 Holborn - Luigi Giovanni Locatelli married Rosina Antoinette Balbiani
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 22:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Carole. Luigi Angelo is definitely Attilio's brother. He also had a sister called Victoria Marie, born in 1882/3.

I'm really stymied about his military service though. Italian medals, a British Medal Card, RASC, died in Italy. Regtl Number M/350134 meaning he was in one of the ASC Motor Transport companies. There were 15 of those which were Divisional Supply Companies and which served divisions, Corps or whatever in Italy in 1916/17 period from what I can find. I wish I could find out which was Attilio's.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 June 20 23:47 BST (UK) »
Many researchers forget, or are unaware, that both Italy and Japan fought with the Allies in the Great War.
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