I can't find any entry for either of them on the 1939 register. I've tried various combinations. I did use the dob given to us by Louisa Maud but there doesn't seem to be an entry. I did wonder if they weren't in Sheffield and so I have tried, Rother Valley, Clitheroe, Bakewell, Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Lancashire and London. I have put in other household members as Vera Owen, Cook, Frederick Harrison and left it blank. I can't think of anything else to try.