Baptism or 1841 census?

[aidansrest]

Hi

I'm looking for the baptism, of a conclusive birth registration for:

James Dickson born c 1837 in Liverpool.

He married Mary Ann Greenfield in Liverpool on the 25th September 1862, naming his father, when he did so, as Thomas Dickson, a joiner - James himself was a plasterer.

I cannot find him at all for certain in 1841, but by 1851, he was lodging with James and Thomas Glover, brother's from Scotland - he is named as their nephew.
James and Thomas' parents were Walter Glover and Janet Brown and they had been born in Liberton, Midlothian.
Walter and Janet also had a daughter, Jane, baptised on the 28th July 1798, so I thought, perhaps, she was James' mother.
However, cannot find any trace of a marriage bewteen a Thomas Dickson and a Jane Glover.

Any ideas anyone??

Thanks

Sue

[rosie99]

1841 Hurst St Liverpool has Jane Dixon with son James age 5 in household with Thomas Glover (30) & James (35) Glover - It is possibly a boarding house as there are lots of people - Jane is 40 bn Scotland

HO107/566 bk20 p18

ADDED Just looked at the original Thomas/James Glover are one household Jane/James Dixon another. Janes occupation is Housekeeper.  There are a few other families in the property

[hol]

there is a baptism for a James 7th August 1837,Liverpool.
Parents Thomas and Sarah address Rose Place fathers occupation Plasterer.

[aidansrest]

Hi All

Its a difficult one to suss out, as I suspect that James may have been born prior to July 1st 1837, but his presence in the Glover household in 1851 (as a nephew), and his father's name, Thomas, on his marriage certificate, in theory, should make the quest for his parents easier.....but it doesnt!

Thanks for all your help anyway, much appreciated

Sue

[rosie99]

Have you discounted the 1841 census that I posted 

[aidansrest]

Hi

No, I do believe that that is the right James in 1841 - I just can't find a marriage between a Dickson (Dixon) and a Glover, or for that matter, anymore children, other than James grrr....

[rosie99]

I think that the naming of his father when he married is suspect.  His uncle Thomas (Glover) was a Joiner, perhaps he just used his name/occupation.

[aidansrest]

Hmmm..perhaps you are right, never thought of that!

Sue

[rosie99]

Is still does not help to find Jane after 1841 or her 'marriage' though.   

Who were the witnesses to James marriage