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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 25 June 20 16:21 BST (UK) »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/major-incident-declared-as-people-flock-to-england-south-coast

And on BBC website too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-53176717

Further down there is a mention of Durdle Door again. They had to close access roads to DD again yesterday.

Some of the debris left by the "visitors" and cleared up by local volunteers yet again who are abused and spat at for trying to manage traffic.

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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 25 June 20 18:36 BST (UK) »
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6. I shall make a will stipulating that I should never, ever, not in a million years be placed in a British care home.

Bit late by then, as by the time it is read you'll be dead!  ;D ;D  Perhaps let your relatives know now
that there is a clause in the will that says that they've put you in a care home all your money goes to the local Cats'Home.

What I can't understand is why on earth do people want to go and sit on a crowded beach in temperatures of about 30 degrees? My idea of hell.
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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 25 June 20 18:47 BST (UK) »
Fully agree. I never did like crowds, though I have been in plenty.
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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 25 June 20 18:47 BST (UK) »
Has this been posted, the Beta version of the Government site - easier to follow and compare with previous days?

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/
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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 25 June 20 18:51 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately Covid19 will be back in force in the Autumn. Thanks largely to the bungling morons who put profit before life.
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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 25 June 20 19:02 BST (UK) »
I suppose we could think of this as a trial - IF cases don't rise dramatically in a week or so, then we will know that the chances of catching it are relatively low.
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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 25 June 20 19:50 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately Covid19 will be back in force in the Autumn.

How do you know that Redroger? I thought this was one of the unknowns about Covid19?
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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 25 June 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
On a cheery note, it was the second wave of Spanish Flu which did the damage!

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Re: The end of hibernation
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 25 June 20 22:02 BST (UK) »
How do you know that Redroger? I thought this was one of the unknowns about Covid19?

It is indeed an unknown.  But if the first wave spread around the World due to people doing the things they normally do, then it is a valid hypothesis that people returning to doing the things they normally do may enable a second wave to spread around the World.

The difference however is that in the first wave very little was known about Covid-19. In fact several reports suggest Covid-19 was silently spreading long before the first Wuhan cases were reported and people simply weren't aware (me being one of them) that it could so easily spread rapidly through symptomless infection.

People now are generally being much more cautious that they were in November/December/January. As a result, the "it will happen again" hypothesis might turn out to be wrong.

Lots of people were predicting that the protests in London and elsewhere were going to cause a second wave - two weeks or so later I'm not aware of any news about localised or general increases in the infection rate. Perhaps it is still too early, or perhaps the concerns were misplaced.

The key thing to take from Redroger's post is that all he offers is criticism. There is no alternative strategy proposed.

It would be interesting to know if he has one, and whether any alternative strategy he has in mind has been adopted by any largish country (population >10M) and if so, what plans that country has to eventually allow people to return to a normal life.