Author Topic: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.  (Read 5180 times)

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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 18:23 BST (UK) »
To add to your book about the Thompsons, RTL, Peter Mellis's will makes interesting reading. Not only does he refer to his estate in the Parish of St George on the Island of Grenada but it would appear that Isabella was a  wealthy young woman when she married . Although I always struggle to read secretarial script it seems she was left several hundred pounds ( maybe twelve hundred?) and a house on the south side of Queen Street in Aberdeen.

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« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 19:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this Millmoor.  I can see I am certainly going to busy on my next day off adding all this info to their 'book' ;)  on Find A Grave.  So Isabella started off in a very wealthy background and sadly ended her days blind and in an institution for the aged and infirm poor.  Although, perhaps she might have been a paying guest there, I suppose.

I am glad to read I am not the only one who struggles to make out that kind of script.  Not that it is relevant to this thread but I have downloaded wills of my 3 x Great Grandparents William Senior of Southall and wife Isabella Senior of Camberwell and a much of it seems like a foreign language!
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 21:36 BST (UK) »

I think you are right Jen, I sense there could well be enough out there on this lot to fill a book! 

and, as a person who took to ebooks like a duck to water, I'd like to request that you produce it as a Kindle edition:-)
I'll keep an eye out to pre-order it  :-)

Boo


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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 27 June 20 09:19 BST (UK) »
William Thompson was buried in Jesmond Old Cemetery on 12th May 1848
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-ZQV5?i=505&cat=828520
(Section 4F, extreme r-h column)

On 3rd August 1971 his body, along with several others, was exhumed and re-interred in Plot F2/4 of the same cemetery
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-CSWN-4?i=843&cat=828520

I was interested to know why his body, and apparently many others, had been exhumed in 1971.

Here is the answer - the land was needed for a dual carriageway! Many bodies were exhumed and re-buried, but in the event the road scheme didn't come to fruition and the exhumations need not have occurred.
More details here http://www.jesmondoldcemetery.co.uk/upheaval_14.html
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« Reply #58 on: Monday 29 June 20 10:39 BST (UK) »
If it comes out as a Kindle edition I will see that you get first delivery Boo.  ;)

After my last nightshift recently (when I was in Newcastle anyway en route home) I did have a scout around the Old Jesmond Cemetery looking for William's grave.  I also tried looking for someone who had placed a photo request and had given plot details. Their ancestor was also one of those exhumed and interred in another part of the cemetery.  Unfortunately, I didn't find a grave stone for either person.  Perhaps I have somehow missed them or perhaps their grave stones were not put up on new grave sites.  :-\  I think I was looking in the right part (on the right side of the entrance on Sandyford road side).

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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 09 September 21 17:08 BST (UK) »
William Joseph Thompson continued...

This is reply #47 in this thread

Newcastle Journal
26 Jan 1872
Town Talk
- Report of William Joseph Thompson
- Russian Vice Consul at North Shields
- has tried to require vessels lying at Shields to report at Shields
- current agreement is that vessels may report to any of the 3 ports,
- North and South Shields and Newcastle,
- whichever is most convenient for masters
- described as attempt to "filch away trade" from Newcastle
- to the benefit of Mr Thompson, being the Russian Vice-Consul at North Shields

Shields Daily Gazette
05 Feb 1874
Suppression Of The Russian Vice Consulate At Shields
The Journal de St Petersburg, the official organ of the Russian Government, contains the announcement that Mr William Joseph Thompson, the Russian Vice-Consul at Shields, has been relieved of his functions by reason of the suppression of the Vice-Consulate at that port.

I can add a little bit more from Shields Gazette, Thursday, 12 August, 1858

"NOTICE. - RUSSIAN VICE-CONSULATE.- Mr RALPH TURNBULL respectfully intimates to Ship Captains and others, that the Russian Vice-Consulate Office has been removed to 38, Bedford Street, North Shields."

So that antedates??? your William Thompson, but interestingly, in 1858, the property was owned by another Thompson, albeit unrelated.

We believe the office was located on part of the land currently occupied by the Beacon Shopping Centre.

In the 1901 Census, Robert John Terrell and Jane Cosgrove and family were living at 38 Bedford Street.

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« Reply #60 on: Thursday 09 September 21 17:21 BST (UK) »

According to Family Search some of these baptisms were at All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne.

However I've searched without success for some of them in the Bishop's Transcripts, moreover the BT's for All Saints for those date don't show the mother's maiden surname or her father's name.

I suspect an F.S. indexing mix-up. Given that Isabella was from Scotland its more likely that they were baptised at a dissenter's church. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3JJ-96P

Without seeing the registers I can't say for certain, but I do know that sometimes people who were non conformists had their children baptised in the faith of their choice and also asked for/ paid a fee ? for their children's births to be recorded in Anglican parish registers (as they were the equivalent of the modern civil registrations if anyone had to show proof of when and where they were born at a later date).

Ones I have seen were usually noted as 'dissenters births'. Maybe they were entered as such in the PR but they didn't bother copying them for the BT's as they weren't actually baptised into the Anglican faith?

If ever the FHCs re-open I can check , but holding breath not a good option for that :-)

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« Reply #61 on: Friday 10 September 21 11:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks for adding  more Westoe.  You and other Rootschatters have been very helpful with this thread.

Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #62 on: Monday 14 August 23 21:14 BST (UK) »
It's unbelievable! I visited the grave of William Joseph Thompson, a former Russian consul, just a few days ago. It's located in Bray, Ireland - St Peters church, Little Bray.

In Affectionate Remembrance of
WILLIAM JOSEPH THOMPSON
Late Russian Consul
who died Dec. 22 1893 aged 80 years
Also his wife
MARY THOMPSON
(nee HALIDAY)
died Feb. 21 1895 aged 83 years
R.I.P.
Erected by their children
I'm a researcher in subject of White Russian emigres (first wave of Russian immigration after the Russian Revolution of 1917) in Ireland. I'll be happy to know about other Russian graves in Ireland.