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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #45 on: Monday 22 June 20 18:09 BST (UK) »
That is so sad Jen - I hadn't known that.  It is a shame that some of these institutions have undermined the good work that is and has been carried out through the Church. 
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #46 on: Monday 22 June 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
I have William J Thompson with a possible wife and family

Maria G Thompson wife

Marie - born unlocated yet
Charles - born in Paris 1857
Alfred  - born in france 1859
Susan - born North Shields 1863?
Teresa  - North Shields 1863?
Marguerite - born  Essex 1871

William Joseph is an interesting one. I have a feeling there's plenty more to find on him but he and wife Mary Georgina Haliday are a bit elusive.

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GRO references:
1856 Q1 Birth: Ignatius Constantin William Joseph Thompson (mmn: Haliday); Tynemouth; 10B; 139
1870 Q3 Birth: Marie Marguerite Josephine Carmen Thompson (mmn: Haliday); Tendring; 04A; 265

1871 Census: Preston, Tynemouth, Northumberland
William J Thompson, age 57, Russian V Consul
Marie G Thompson, age 37
+ children
+ visitor Louisa Haliday, age 22, born Ireland

Ref RG10; Piece 5115; Folio 96; Page 21
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BX-GP7

1881 Census: Ramsgate, Thanet, Kent
William & Mary + children
Ref RG11; Piece 989; Folio 43; Page 6
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-KLK7


Wakefield and West Riding Herald
07 Apr 1854
English Patents
William Joseph Thompson, of North Shields, Russian vice-consul, for improvements in heating reverberatory and other furnaces, a communication, dated October 3rd, 1853.

Morning Post
22 Nov 1854
Sympathy For Russia
- General meeting of subscribers of Newcastle Exchange Subscription Rooms
- Held Monday
- Meeting to take into consideration conduct of Mr William Joseph Thompson
- regarding his pro-Russian views
- and to decide on his expulsion
- Thompson a member of the rooms
- 150-200 gentlemen were present
- Chairman, Mr Alderman Pollock, dilated opinions of Thompson
- Mr Harrison addressed subscribers and moved a resolution to expel Thompson
- Mr Bownes seconded proposition, stating Thompson always expressed pro-Russian opinions
- Stated that Russian successes were source of joy to Thompson
- Thompson had scored and altered newspapers and hung them near telegraphic news
- Mr Thompson attended and protested against proceedings
- Motion to expel Thompson carried unanimously
- Thompson's name struck out of list of members, amidst cheers of the meeting

Cork Examiner
29 May 1854
Marriages
May 25, by the Very Rev. Dean Meyler, Wm. Joseph Thompson, Eqs., of Newcastle-on-Tyne, to Mary Georgina, eldest daughter of Henry Haliday, Esq., MD.

Newcastle Courant
02 Jun 1854
Marriages
At Dublin, at St Andrew's Church, Westland-row, on the 24th ult., William Joseph Thompson, Esq., merchant, of North Shields, to Maria Georgina, eldest daughter of Henry Haleday, Esq., MD, of Dublin.

The Tablet
22 Dec 1855
Births
At Tynemouth, on 18th inst., the wife of William Joseph Thompson, Esq., of a son

Falkirk Herald
10 Apr 1856
An Anglo-Russian Martyr
Our readers (says Newcastle Chronicle) can hardly have forgotten the ignominious expulsion or MR W J Thompson from the Exchange News-Room of this town for indecent expressions of sympathy for Russia. The "persecutions" of Mr Thompson have, we understand, formed a frequent subject of remark in St Petersburg journals, and doubtless no opportunity has been lost of exhibiting his "martyrdom" before the Russia authorities. Among the devices used for that end, we learn from a correspondent in St Petersburg, has been the extensive circulation of a printed document posted in Newcastle, and which, after recounting the "incessant insults" passed upon Mr Thompson, winds up with the following important piece of intelligence, which we give verbatim: - "The eldest born son of Mr William Joseph Thompson, born 6th (18th) December, 1855, the feast-day of the greatest monarch ever possessed by Europe, of memory sacred and imperishable, the late Nicholas, Emperor of all the Russians, was baptized the 8th (20th) of the same month Constantine, testifying the constancy of his views, which are fully participated in by his wife," &c. Mr Thompson was the Russian vice-consul at Shields previous to the war.

Newcastle Journal
29 Nov 1856
Local & General Intelligence
- Mr Ralph Turnbull, of North Shields
- appointed to transact business at Russian Consulate at Shields
- as Deputy Vice Consul to
- William Joseph Thompson, Esq. Russian Vice-Consul at that port

Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser
02 Jul 1861
- Insolvent debtor
- To be heard at Court House, Portugal-street, Lincoln's Inn fields, Middlesex
- on Twelfth day of July, 1861
- William Joseph Thompson, general merchant
- formerly of 19 Trafalgar street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne
- office at 8 Quay-side, Newcastle-upon-Tyne
- office at Parliament-street, Hull, Yorkshire
- numerous other addresses listed, including at:
- North Shields, Northumberland
- Lower Norwood, Surrey
- London
- Gravesend, Kent
- Paris, France
- Islington, Middlesex

London Gazette: Issue 22524, Page 2733
28 June 1861
[as above]
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/22524/page/2733
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #47 on: Monday 22 June 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
William Joseph Thompson continued...


Newcastle Journal
26 Jan 1872
Town Talk
- Report of William Joseph Thompson
- Russian Vice Consul at North Shields
- has tried to require vessels lying at Shields to report at Shields
- current agreement is that vessels may report to any of the 3 ports,
- North and South Shields and Newcastle,
- whichever is most convenient for masters
- described as attempt to "filch away trade" from Newcastle
- to the benefit of Mr Thompson, being the Russian Vice-Consul at North Shields

Shields Daily Gazette
05 Feb 1874
Suppression Of The Russian Vice Consulate At Shields
The Journal de St Petersburg, the official organ of the Russian Government, contains the announcement that Mr William Joseph Thompson, the Russian Vice-Consul at Shields, has been relieved of his functions by reason of the suppression of the Vice-Consulate at that port.
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #48 on: Monday 22 June 20 21:28 BST (UK) »
One more death announcement for William (sen) which gives ever so slightly more info.

Newcastle Journal
13 May 1848
Deaths
In this town, at his house, 19, Trafalgar Street, on the 9th inst. Mr William Thompson, upwards of forty years one of the most respected merchants of this town.
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 09:06 BST (UK) »
I have William J Thompson with a possible wife and family

Maria G Thompson wife

Marie - born unlocated yet
Charles - born in Paris 1857
Alfred  - born in france 1859
Susan - born North Shields 1863?
Teresa  - North Shields 1863?
Marguerite - born  Essex 1871
William Joseph is an interesting one.

How fascinating!

RTL, abandon all other family history questions and just focus on the Thompson family. There will probably be enough of interest to write a book  :D
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 09:19 BST (UK) »
This looks like William Joseph and wife Mary Georgina.

Irish death references:
1894 Q1 William Joseph Thompson; age 80 (born c1814); Rathdown; 2; 835
1895 Q1 Mary Thompson; age 65 (born c1830); Dublin North; 2; 407


Dublin Evening Telegraph
27 Dec 1893
Deaths
Thompson - Dec 22, 1893, at Millview terrace, Bray, William Joseph Thompson, aged 81 years RIP

Dublin Evening Telegraph
22 Feb 1895
Death
Thompson - Feb 21, 1895. Mary, relict of the late William Joseph Thompson, aged 65 years, and daughter of the late Dr Haliday.

Admin with will:
Mary Thompson
died 21 Feb 1895
at Saint Vincent's Asylum Fairview County Dublin
granted to Marguerite Thompson spinster
and Teresa Wiley (wife of Albert P Wiley)
both of The Lawn Bray the Universal Legatees
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639269487


Also:

Letters of admin:
Anna Haliday
died 22 Jun 1891
late of 25 Rue Deufert Rockerean Paris France
spinster
granted to Mary Thompson of Millview-terrace Bray County Wicklow,
(wife of William Joseph Thompson), the sister
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639494874
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 11:44 BST (UK) »
Wow!  Cuffie, thank you so much for finding all this!  No apologies re big info dumps - you have found some great stuff to add to the story!  :D The plot thickens it seems!  I had no idea there was ever a Russian Vice Consul at Shields.  I did feel sorry for poor William J when I read about how he was booted out and I thought it was a bit mean of them to be so gleeful about it with the cheering.  It seems there is so much more to this Thompson story than I had expected.  I have just got in from nightshift now and will have to get some sleep but in a couple of days I do intend to add all the info you and others have found to the biographies write up I have started on Find A Grave.  Or perhaps I should say the Thompson novel - so much is coming to light.  :) Thank you again Cuffie for all the work you have done on this, it certainly is appreciated.

I can't wait now to get back to the library in Shields to find out if there might be more on this William J in the A-Z files.  (This is a great resource as these hold loads of interesting items on local ancestors.)  I will also speak to the staff in local studies as they might have something or know more about him and the rest of the family.

I think you are right Jen, I sense there could well be enough out there on this lot to fill a book!  I am also looking forward to you escaping soon from that high security institution you are in so that you can check out the two nun sisters grave stones.  I will send you a cake with a file and chisel in if that might help.   ;)
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Re: Info sought on Thompson family on this grave stone, please.
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
Isabella senior died aged 81 on 27th August 1873 at Nazareth House, Cuparston, Aberdeen.
She is described as the widow of John Thompson, merchant in Shields, her parents Peter Mellis (deceased) and Elizabeth Mellis, maiden surname Strichen (deceased).

Just to complete the information about Isabella, she was buried in section E of St Nicholas Churchyard, Aberdeen, on 30th August 1873. She is simply described as Mrs Thompson aged 81 of Nazareth House.
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« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 23 June 20 17:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for discovering this Jen.  So it would seem that of the three on the memorial only Isabella Sarah must have been buried in the actual grave at North Shields.
It will be easy for me to check this out once the North Shields library reopens.  Names of those who had Old Tynemouth memorials are kept on file and full burial entries for Old Tynemouth are on microfilm. 
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner