Board of Guardians childrens' record

[Bookbox]

what are the words before Miss Bunny?

Suggestion ...

Inftn obtd fr (= Information obtained from)

If he'd been boarding out, the Committee would have to tell the Guardians that he'd enlisted, and when, because he would be off their books from that date onwards.

[ValJJJ]

Thanks so much Bookbox. 

How many years have you been studying Board of Guardians work, and bad handwriting? 

Val

[jonwarrn]

Miss M. E. Bunny was Hon Sec BO Com = Honorary Secretary Boarding-Out Committee.

Miss M E Bunny, Secretary!
Top left
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NL-KC5?i=43&cat=1370340

Is it Alfred going to Messrs Plenty & Sons?
Above him and first entry is his friend James Oakley, fellow boarder with the Wickens in Newbury in 1911. Interestingly, James was a foundling.

[jonwarrn]

Is it Alfred going to Messrs Plenty & Sons?

Yes of course.
Here he is in the St Pancras BG Register of Apprentices and Servants, 1902-1914
Campbell Alfred, Registered as Rimmer
His wages were to be supplemented by the Guardians for a couple of years
Two images
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NG-W9NG-K?i=701&cat=1370340

That all started 3.3.11, but in the census that year Alfred was said to be at school?

Sister Violet's entry in next register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NG-W9G9-6?i=1058&cat=1370340

[ValJJJ]

Yes the whole story of this family is in that St Pancras admissions register, including Alfred's surname on his birth certificate, which is why I couldn't find it for years as he wasn't a Campbell.

I went to the London Metropolitan Archives and looked at all the registers in the flesh (well dust and decay) and looked at the committee minutes that aren't on Ancestry.  Alfred was mentioned a few times - they paid for him to have his appendix out and to recuperate in a home.  They also  supplemented his wages at Plenty's:

STPBG/082/002 Boarding out committee signed minutes

At Clarendon Square, Mon 27/2/1911

Recommending –
…
(2) That Alfred Campbell (14 ½, boarded out at Speenhamland, be placed in a situation with Messrs. Plenty + Sons, Engineers, of Newbury, Berks, and that his wages be upplemented [sic] to the extent of 5s. per week for the first year, and 2s. 6d. per week for the second year.
   (Arrangements have been made for this boy to continue to reside with his foster parents, and he will receive 2s. 6d. per week wages for the first year, 6s. per week for the second year, and increasing to 10s. per week after the second year).

At Clarendon Square   5th May 1913
The committee recommends –
….
 That the Guardians continue to suppliment [sic] the wages of Alfred Campbell to the extent of 5/= per week for a further period of two months, the amount to be reduced to 4/= per week at the end of that time.

Amazingly well cared for, I thought.

[ValJJJ]

Although this refers to Ongar, I thought that might be an error and it is 'my' Alfred:

At Town Hall   6th May 1915
Rec-
That they have approved of the maintenance allowance in respect of Alfred Campbell being paid to the foster-parents during the time the boy was in hospital for an operation, in order that he might be given extra, and have his washing done, which are not supplied by the hospital authorities.

At Clarendon Sq.  15th May 1916
Rec-
That the sum of £1 be granted to defray the cost of travelling expenses of Alfred Campbell, boarded-out at Ongar, who has been sent to a convalescent home, Herbert Home, Bournemouth, after a recent illness.

STPBG/184/002 
From 11/6/1908 to March 1930

 NB elsewhere in the Speen Boarding Out committee minutes, it was noted that  4/6 per child per week was allocated for 1914, increased to 5/= in May 1914

[ValJJJ]

jonw65

I can see I'm going to have to explore LDS more - perhaps I needn't have gone to London to make notes, but it was exciting to see all the actual ledgers and discover the entries for Alfred, after spending many years (including pre internet) not knowing anything of my grandfather's life.  But I didn't come across that ledger you referred to. 

[ValJJJ]

Also my notes:
At Clarendon Square 8th Sept 1913
Rec-
That Violet Campbell (13), Boarded-out at Speenhamland, be transferred to a Training Home of the Metropolitan Association for Befriending Young Servants.

I love the name of that organisation. 

I found her placement later in service with the Clemlow family, and then her marriage to Arthur Swinson in Leek, Staffs.  Not sure how she would have met him - perhaps she moved to Leek with her job?

At least she is easier to find than some, with her names of Violet Annie Louise.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
It's wonderful to see original documents when you are able to, and going to the LMA is always fun. There is plenty of stuff there that isn't online.
But, yes, nice if you can find some of it on ancestry or familysearch and download it.

Ongar is a bit strange, but you are right, they seem to have taken great care with Alfred and and presumably his sister. I have mixed feelings about boarding out because we "lost" my grandfather's sisters who were b/out in Flitwick. I didn't have as much luck as you have at the LMA re the relevant committee.

I can see (work out!) from the NZ BDM site that John Campbell died 10.8.75, and that leads to his grave at Maunu Cemetery, Whangarei, on Billion Graves, but best leave all that now and wish you good luck with him.
John